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06-19-2017, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clinton, Indiana
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ifly vs EFIS opinions ?
I have ifly and need to select an Efis for my -4 project. The ifly is soooo intuitive and easy to use. MGL suite is highly regarded for the rdac and can bus approach. I would appreciate any comparisons of efis to the ifly format.
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RV-3B flying w/7:1 0320 / carb / Pmags / Catto 3b / digital steam
RV-4 fastback w/ Superior roller 360/AFP/G3X/CPI/Catto3b
Clinton, IN
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06-19-2017, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Largo, FL
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iFly plus EFIS, for me
I have (2) iFly 740s that I currently use --- I have on order, an AFS 5600T system --- but, at least one of the iFlys will remain in my airplane as the "go to" for supplementing the EFIS ----as you say, wonderfully easy to use and the customer support is outstanding.
Ron
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06-19-2017, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Friendswood, Tx
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This is what i have done to my -6 so far. I lost 12 lbs after taking out the vac system and all the instruments.
This is what i did to my -3 panel. You might be able to squeeze in the ifly in place of the garmin 496 by making an angle mount and letting it extend below the panels bottom edge.

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Rv-6
0-320/180+hp
10-1 pistons
Lycon port/polish
Dual pmags
EI Commander
Whirlwind 200rv prop
IFR Glass panel
Trutrak Vizion 385 Autopilot
Flightline Interior
Almost rv14 seat mod/cable locking
Electric seat back adjuster
Last edited by titanhank : 06-20-2017 at 06:40 AM.
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06-19-2017, 08:09 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titanhank
This is what i have done to my -6 so far. I lost 12 lbs after taking out the vac system and all the instruments.
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I see you are using the same handheld radio that I use in the open cockpit Fokker D.VII. If you need more volume from the radio check out this thread on the EAA forum:
http://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?...Handheld-Radio
Adding a miniature audio matching transformer will drastically increase headset volume. I found this to be a great modification in my noisy aircraft.
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06-19-2017, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Friendswood, Tx
Posts: 390
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Thanks sam. It is plenty loud enough when routed through a portable intercom and my bose a20. I had a kx155, but it died one day while rolling out after landing. I plan on pulling the entire panel out soon and building a new panel blank with new radio/txp and install everything the right way.
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Rv-6
0-320/180+hp
10-1 pistons
Lycon port/polish
Dual pmags
EI Commander
Whirlwind 200rv prop
IFR Glass panel
Trutrak Vizion 385 Autopilot
Flightline Interior
Almost rv14 seat mod/cable locking
Electric seat back adjuster
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06-20-2017, 05:05 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clinton, Indiana
Posts: 992
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Back to ifly vs efis
Anyone have real experience with how ifly compares to a particular efis brand or efis in general ?
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Larry DeCamp
RV-3B flying w/7:1 0320 / carb / Pmags / Catto 3b / digital steam
RV-4 fastback w/ Superior roller 360/AFP/G3X/CPI/Catto3b
Clinton, IN
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06-20-2017, 05:07 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Grindstone, PA
Posts: 143
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a Garmin G5 and EDM 930 in my panel, Ifly 740 driving a Trio PP driving my 6A works great for me.
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06-20-2017, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Martinsville, IN
Posts: 454
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I'm using an iFly740 as my moving map alongside of a GRT Sport SX. I wouldn't give up either. The iFly is not the same thing as an EFIS.
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06-20-2017, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clinton, Indiana
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dtw ?
Thanks for input. You confirmed my concerns that an efis is not as capable as my 740 for navigation. Please elaborate on how ifly is different than efis .
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Larry DeCamp
RV-3B flying w/7:1 0320 / carb / Pmags / Catto 3b / digital steam
RV-4 fastback w/ Superior roller 360/AFP/G3X/CPI/Catto3b
Clinton, IN
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06-20-2017, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry DeCamp
Thanks for input. You confirmed my concerns that an efis is not as capable as my 740 for navigation. Please elaborate on how ifly is different than efis .
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Larry,
The iFly is a very capable Electronic Flight Book (EFB), basically, what handheld GPS's have morphed in to. It gives you all sorts of position information, navigation, and charts, plates, etc. A very good tool to have, especially if you move between airplanes - you always have something familiar. I use ForeFlight on an iPad for this same function - many ways to do it.
An EFIS is a built-in Electronic Flight Information System - part of the wired in avionics of the aircraft. it will replace all of your primary flight instruments, including those with air data (pitot and static). In addition, it will interface with your engine and fuel system, so it can give you much broader navigation insites - like how much fuel you'll have at the current flow rate at each waypoint in your flight plan. Advanced systems will interface with radios, transponders, IFR Navigators, etc. An EFIS is an entire instrument panel...and more. Most full-featured EFIS's today will give you all of the navigation capability of a portable EFB, plus realtime interface to the aircraft.
Asking if you need an iFly or an EFIS is sort of like asking if you like airplanes or bananas - they are two different things. If you are going VFR, and have a set of air data plus engine instruments already, then the iFly will be a great navigator. If you are looking for teh iFly to be your entire panel - it is missing many key elements.
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