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05-15-2017, 10:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Langley BC
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Ding
Clive
That ding is going to bug you on every pre flight walk around.
I did the same thing once and my better half said re-skin it.
You already have the frame and hole pattern so shouldn't be too hard to do.
Carr
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05-15-2017, 01:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I did the same thing 4 yrs ago when repainting, only I did it better as the other elevator was laying under the elevator that fell off the rack and both elevators had to be reskinned!
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05-15-2017, 01:44 PM
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Location: Battleground
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Well bummer. I am a very experienced sheet metal worker and would try to fix it, just so I can say I tried. However, 2024t3 isn't very workable. You get one or two shots at fixing a crease, bend, or sharp edge before it cracks. Access will be limited making this job even tougher. If you can fix this to a satisfactory "like new" condition (no filler), my hat is off to you. If you can do that in less time than re-skinning the entire thing, you're very good!
I have seen similar damage repaired, properly, with a patch. The overlapping seam really isn't that noticeable, but with access issues, and getting the bends right, you are probably in the same ball park time wise as re-skinning.
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05-15-2017, 04:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Northern California
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I confess: I made the same mistake
I made exactly the same mistake as I was about to paint my elevator. I considered re-skinning, but I felt that the damage caused by me removing all those rivets was a greater risk than a fiberglass repair. I cut off the bent aluminum, fitted a foam plug, and glassed over the top. After painting, the repair is invisible except when viewed from the end. I haven't thought about it since. That is, until I saw your post.
http://roughandreadyaerospace.blogsp...-disaster.html
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05-15-2017, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: North Fort Myers
Posts: 247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_rainbolt
I made exactly the same mistake as I was about to paint my elevator. I considered re-skinning, but I felt that the damage caused by me removing all those rivets was a greater risk than a fiberglass repair. I cut off the bent aluminum, fitted a foam plug, and glassed over the top. After painting, the repair is invisible except when viewed from the end. I haven't thought about it since. That is, until I saw your post.
http://roughandreadyaerospace.blogsp...-disaster.html
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thats impressive, and great work
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05-15-2017, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Worland, Wyoming
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_rainbolt
I made exactly the same mistake as I was about to paint my elevator. I considered re-skinning, but I felt that the damage caused by me removing all those rivets was a greater risk than a fiberglass repair. I cut off the bent aluminum, fitted a foam plug, and glassed over the top. After painting, the repair is invisible except when viewed from the end. I haven't thought about it since. That is, until I saw your post.
http://roughandreadyaerospace.blogsp...-disaster.html
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I concur with Neal, fantastic thinking and great work!
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05-15-2017, 07:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 128
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[quote=joe_rainbolt;1173260]I made exactly the same mistake as I was about to paint my elevator. I considered re-skinning, but I felt that the damage caused by me removing all those rivets was a greater risk than a fiberglass repair. I cut off the bent aluminum, fitted a foam plug, and glassed over the top. After painting, the repair is invisible except when viewed from the end. I haven't thought about it since. That is, until I saw your post.
Well Joe, your blog pretty much describes my reactions to a 'T', and for what it's worth I attempted to straighten the damage in the same way you did, with almost exactly the same result. I have thought about re-skinning as suggested and that may well be the way I end up going, but shipping replacement parts out to this corner of the world can be very costly to say the least.
I have decided to attempt a repair not unlike what you have done but by forming a small piece of aluminium to fit under the skin and riveting/bonding in place between the skin and the end rib. Looks pretty good dry fitting so far and I am hoping that once the filling and fairing has been completed it will not be noticeable under the paint. We shall see...
Clive
Last edited by whittfic : 05-15-2017 at 07:35 PM.
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05-21-2017, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Repaired!
So here it is. I decided to attempt a repair and it didn't come out too bad, acceptable if not perfect...
I cut of the damaged area and found a scrap piece of aluminium to fabricate a patch. After applying alodine I riveted and bonded the patch into position using epoxy adhesive. Filled and faired using epoxy adhesive thickened with aluminium powder and then primed and painted. Whole process took about three hours plus curing time for the glue and paint.
As I said, not perfect but I'm happy with the result.
Clive Whittfield
Auckland, New Zealand
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05-21-2017, 09:10 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Worland, Wyoming
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That looks awesome! I would never notice it unless looking in from the side. Nice work!
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05-22-2017, 01:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Richmond VA, USA
Posts: 456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcarne
That looks awesome! I would never notice it unless looking in from the side. Nice work!
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Agreed, that's really impressive.
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