ADS-B Compliant for $1,000?

[mrreddick]

Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan

I just purchased a Stratus ESG transponder that includes a compliant GPS....will be ~$1650 after the FAA rebate.

Wow! I need to buy from your guy! Our avionics shop wants $2995 for the Stratus and after the $500 rebate it still comes to near $2,500!

[Checkmate]

http://grtavionics.com/uavionix-echo-uat.html

GRT is on the band wagon

[Sam Buchanan]

Originally Posted by mrreddick

Wow! I need to buy from your guy! Our avionics shop wants $2995 for the Stratus and after the $500 rebate it still comes to near $2,500!

The ESG arrived today from Starks Avionics. $2131 + shipping from Columbus, GA.

[pitts flyer]

Originally Posted by GalinHdz

And those are ADS-B compliant GPS sources when connected to the individual EFIS so keep adding those costs. FWIW, I was most impressed with the iLevil "all in one" unit at SunNFun.

No again. For example: Trig TT22 transponder and one of the WAAS Gps sources listed (with applicable antenna) and you are done. Other Mode S transponders with displays will also work. No EFIS display required, though if you are going that route, you can use some of the remote operated Mode S transponders now available.

[YellowJacket RV9]

Originally Posted by Checkmate

http://grtavionics.com/uavionix-echo-uat.html

GRT is on the band wagon

Big fan of GRT and their support for things like Stratux and uAvionix. Can't get much more bang for the buck. I've been waiting till the cost of a complete solution got close to the $1k mark - almost there. Don't want to alter my panel or get rid of a perfectly good GTX327.

Chris

[pitts flyer]

Originally Posted by pitts flyer

No again. For example: Trig TT22 transponder and one of the WAAS Gps sources listed (with applicable antenna) and you are done. Other Mode S transponders with displays will also work. No EFIS display required, though if you are going that route, you can use some of the remote operated Mode S transponders now available.

And I forgot to add that Uavioni has an APP for configuring its transponder--again no EFIS is mandatory (though it is always useful, especially if you can get your ADS-B in on it.)

[Saville]

Originally Posted by YellowJacket RV9

Big fan of GRT and their support for things like Stratux and uAvionix. Can't get much more bang for the buck. I've been waiting till the cost of a complete solution got close to the $1k mark - almost there. Don't want to alter my panel or get rid of a perfectly good GTX327.

Chris

I think waiting is the smart move. I'm planning a thorough panel upgrade for 2019 and I figure the prices will come down (or the capabilities will go up) during the remainder of 2017 and all of 2018.

It's nice to have the capability now but I figure it'll be cheaper the longer you wait.

[GalinHdz]

Originally Posted by pitts flyer

No again. For example: Trig TT22 transponder and one of the WAAS Gps sources listed (with applicable antenna) and you are done. Other Mode S transponders with displays will also work. No EFIS display required, though if you are going that route, you can use some of the remote operated Mode S transponders now available.

There, I added the boldface for you to understand. Not just the one piece of relatively inexpensive equipment is needed to be compliant.

[brian]

I was on the verge of getting a Garmin 345 with an Aera 660 ($5k + $750), then downgraded that choice to a Garmin 335 ($3K + $750) when I realized Garmin won't talk to my WingX and that I already have an acceptable ADS-B in solution that works with WingX.

Then I downgraded that choice to a L3 Lynx NGT-1000 because if all I need is ADS-B out, that's the cheapest solution. However, it does require a digital transponder. Garmin 327s are now readily available for $4-500. That was the cheapest solution up to that point; about $2800.

Then at SNF I first discovered the uAvionix echo UAT with a show price of $1000. It claims to work with legacy transponders, and it works with WingX. Claimed to be currently available. It also needs their SkyFYX GPS box, which is being redesigned from a box plus an antenna to an all-in-one antenna similar to how Dynon is doing theirs; all the GPS electronics is right there inside the GPS antenna puck. Claimed cost less than $500, claimed availability 4-6 weeks. I nearly bought an echo UAT until I asked the regular price of the box. It was $1000, so no incentive to buy at the show. Total cost here about $1500 and little wiring, no panel changes.

Then I found the Levil Aviation BEACON. It claims to have EVERYTHING in a little shark fin antenna box that goes under the belly. It talks antenna-antenna to your existing transponder. All is needs is power and a cable up the GPS antenna on top. "Coming soon". If it had a price, I didn't record it. So an even simpler installation. Buy one box, put it in, that's it. According to posts in this thread, it's looking like maybe low to mid teens in price when it comes out.

By the time I got to the BEACON, I could see that manufacturers are now starting to ramp up better, simpler, cheaper solutions. By 2 years from now, I expect that the two other options I mentioned will be sorted out & will either work or they won't. I also expect that, over the next 2 years, other manufacturers will come up with similar designs that don't require $6K in panel upgrades.

So, I'm going to just forego the FAA rebate and wait and see how the simpler solutions work out.

[mrreddick]

I was very impressed by Levil's Beacon. I purchased the complete kit at Airventure with a certified GPS antenna and wiring harness for the panel mounted annuciator for $1,700, shipping included.
They were supposed to start shipping them on August 18th but I haven't received mine yet.
Their website states that they were so overwhelmed with orders that they
are not accepting new orders at this time.