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05-02-2017, 06:06 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,514
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I had this problem too. It was me, not the seat brand.
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Originally Posted by Ted Christopher
I love my RV12 SLSA but the seats get uncomfortable after 30 minutes or so. I've tried various cushions without much luck--are higher quality seats available from an aftermarket source?
I've read posts referring to Abbey--Is she at the Oregon Aero I see advertised at the website. I'd like to hear what specific seats people may have ordered and how happy they are with them.
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Ted, you might try to define what exactly causes the pain. I ordered Oregon Aero seats after sitting in them a few minutes at OSH as they seemed to be the best for me. I get lower back pain in any car seat after about an hour - bad for those 10-12 hr driving days. My tolerance has become less with age. I researched and made an wood buck simulating the angles and distances of the airplane for the plane cushions/floor height. I would sit in them the evening for 2 hours as a test. After trying a dozen different adjustments (6 weeks of testing) using styrofoam blocks, wedges etc, I worked with OA to define the issue and modify the seats. They were knowledgable and easy to work with. The test on return was excellent. Abby covered the seats and has them waiting for good flying weather to pick them up.
So, you might consider if it is the seat or you. Seat designs are made for the masses. It is impractical to test many seats in the manner I did, so you might try to define just what aspect of the seat needs modification, so the seat experts can make an appropriate modification for you.
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Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
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05-02-2017, 06:40 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Boca Raton, FL BCT
Posts: 133
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Another option is to replace the stock foam with memory foam, available through a few vendors. The foam comes in three densities denoted by color; pink, blue , and green. I use these, about $25 per piece, and also added a second layer for lumbar support. They are easy to install, and the original seat is a quality product, worth keeping.
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Flying a built ELSA
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05-02-2017, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Braham, MN
Posts: 36
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Thanks, I understand now, I'll attach one under my seat and see if it helps, I'm just 5'8" so headroom won't be an issue. The "down in a hole" issue may be why I get low back pain.
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05-02-2017, 09:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 2,818
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In hot weather (I live in Phoenix) I find putting a terry cloth Beach towel over the seat and back helps a lot. I looked for a sheep skin cover, but from the prices I think I would have been sheared worse than the sheep!😁
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05-03-2017, 05:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Elkton, Md.
Posts: 1,650
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An Alternative
I have 3 ruptured discs in my lower back and always need lumbar support. I had the stock seats in my 1st 12 and did not like them either. On my 2nd 12 one big change that I knew had to be made were the seats. I spoke with the lovely and gracious Abby and wound up collaborating with her on my new seats. I sketched them out and then made a working drawing which she entered the data from to her autocad. Through a bit of back and forth, I had a fantastic set of seats. They are extremely comfortable and durable, made from rich Corinthian leather, suitable for a Chrysler C?rdoba. I call them the Ricardo Montalbon Edition. She has made several sets. My bud Jeff Vaughn called and told her he wanted the Dave Farmer specials. The Governor of Maine also has a set. Maybe the governor will have one of his it people post a picture. Yes, I can repair airplanes and design seats, but please don't ask me to post a picture on this site!
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05-03-2017, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Douglassville, PA
Posts: 66
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Try Skwoosh they did the trick
I had same problem until I purchased the "Skwoosh"
No more fidgeting during flight for me due to discomfort.
I do limit my legs to 2.5 hours but it is not due to being uncomfortable in the seat.
Skwoosh Pilot Gel Seat Pad Cushion with breathable mesh fabric and non-skid bottom. Made in USA
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Last edited by Skunkworks : 05-03-2017 at 11:36 AM.
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05-03-2017, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Chester, Pa
Posts: 583
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Farmer Seats
Here is a link to discussion and photos of the Farmer seats
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ighlight=Seats
I have a set on order!!
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05-03-2017, 06:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ellsworth, ME
Posts: 842
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Dave Seats
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Originally Posted by Dave12
I have 3 ruptured discs in my lower back and always need lumbar support. I had the stock seats in my 1st 12 and did not like them either. On my 2nd 12 one big change that I knew had to be made were the seats. I spoke with the lovely and gracious Abby and wound up collaborating with her on my new seats. I sketched them out and then made a working drawing which she entered the data from to her autocad. Through a bit of back and forth, I had a fantastic set of seats. They are extremely comfortable and durable, made from rich Corinthian leather, suitable for a Chrysler Córdoba. I call them the Ricardo Montalbon Edition. She has made several sets. My bud Jeff Vaughn called and told her he wanted the Dave Farmer specials. The Governor of Maine also has a set. Maybe the governor will have one of his it people post a picture. Yes, I can repair airplanes and design seats, but please don't ask me to post a picture on this site!
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Picture of Dave12's seats

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05-20-2017, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Braham, MN
Posts: 36
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Seat works better
Thanks so much for explaining how that underseat wedge works. I have been using one on my daughter's side from the start to boost her higher, now I know it makes a dramatic difference in the comfort of my own seat. 
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