VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

  #31  
Old 03-31-2017, 05:53 PM
Kyle Boatright Kyle Boatright is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRMA View Post
I haven't tried the oscillating tools, but found the large 3" disks that Van's provides were too crude, hard to control, and caused a lot of dust. What worked best for me was a Dremel tool with the small 1" diamond blades from HF. http://www.harborfreight.com/diamond...-pc-69657.html These cause a very fine cut so not a lot of dust and are easy to control. Just plan on changing the disk reasonably frequently. I think I've gone through about 5 of the packages of 5. Other builders have also said they had the best results with the Dremel tool.
Sadly, I've killed one dremel on this project already. Apparently a tool which creates dust by design is subject to failure due to dust ingestion. .
__________________
Kyle Boatright
Marietta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 03-31-2017, 08:45 PM
salto salto is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Wee Waa Australia
Posts: 279
Default

You can get dremel cutting discs now that click on click of. Have a much stronger centre than just the screw. 👍
__________________
Kit 140241
Tail Feathers done
Fuselage kit completed.
wings almost complete.
Flaps and ailerons done.
Canopy next. Phew!
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-01-2017, 08:56 AM
DanH's Avatar
DanH DanH is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 9,476
Default

A good jigsaw does cutoff work with a lot less dust.

BTW gents, the kind comments are appreciated, but I'm just a homebuilder, like you. There are lots of good composite guys here. I'm just a TC who takes the time to explain things on VAF. Truth is, most of the real pros don't have the time. They're in the shop, making a living.
__________________
Dan Horton
RV-8 SS
Barrett IO-390

Last edited by DanH : 04-01-2017 at 09:00 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-01-2017, 09:59 AM
60av8tor 60av8tor is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Harrisburg, Pa
Posts: 759
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright View Post
Sadly, I've killed one dremel on this project already. Apparently a tool which creates dust by design is subject to failure due to dust ingestion. .
Same here, Kyle. I quickly learned that my dremel was not up to the task of the cabin top. It killed me, too, as I get attached to dumb things - had that dremel for probably 12-13 years
__________________
Jon
RV-7A purchased flying - Sold 6/16
RV-10 empennage delivered 1/22/14 (325JT)

Build: http://hhav8or.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-01-2017, 11:03 AM
DRMA DRMA is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 406
Default

My Dremel 4000 has held up well to extensive use on my RV-10, including full trimming of the cabin top and Plexiglas. I do "clean" it out occasionally using an air nozzle on my compressor hose to blow out all of the vent openings.
__________________
Dave Macdonald

RV-10 First Flight April 1, 2020. Currently in Phase 1
2020 VAF Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04-02-2017, 07:26 AM
Bill Boyd's Avatar
Bill Boyd Bill Boyd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Landing field "12VA"
Posts: 1,529
Default Last night's shop session

... pretty good progress - rough trimmed everything except window openings to the plans dimensions/scribe lines. Used a combination of the HF oscillating carbide blade in my Porter Cable 20V multi-tool and a Bosch grit blade in my jigsaw. Easiest technique was to start the cut lines with the oscillating tool which is a little easier to steer precisely, and finish by running the jigsaw through the shallow kerf - the jigsaw blade lost its initial sharpness early on, and seemed to 'appreciate' the pre-cut groove to follow through the thicker flanges. I didn't bother with either a face dust mask or holding a vacuum hose near the tool, as the dust from both tools settles quickly to the floor. Very different from the cutoff wheel.

I found that the factory cut lines yield a doorway section that is 37-1/2"wide, to fit inside a fuselage rough opening of 37-1/8" width. Clearly there will not be much material left in the vertical sides of the fiberglass doorway area by the time I am finished narrowing them to 37-1/8" OD with a belt sander. Pictures of other builds seem to indicate this is pretty standard.
__________________
Bill Boyd

Hop-Along Aerodrome (12VA)
RV-6A - N30YD - Built '98 / sold '20
RV-10 - N130YD reserved - under construction

donating monthly to the VAF - thanks, Doug
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 04-02-2017, 08:27 AM
bret's Avatar
bret bret is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
Posts: 2,828
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH View Post
A good jigsaw does cutoff work with a lot less dust.

BTW gents, the kind comments are appreciated, but I'm just a homebuilder, like you. There are lots of good composite guys here. I'm just a TC who takes the time to explain things on VAF. Truth is, most of the real pros don't have the time. They're in the shop, making a living.
Well, I am just one of many I'm sure, who thank you for taking the time to explain, I have learned a lot from your comments on here regarding FG and many other subjects. Thanks!
__________________
7A Slider, EFII Angle 360, CS, SJ.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 04-02-2017, 11:11 AM
DRMA DRMA is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 406
Default Doorway Material Left

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Boyd View Post
...

I found that the factory cut lines yield a doorway section that is 37-1/2"wide, to fit inside a fuselage rough opening of 37-1/8" width. Clearly there will not be much material left in the vertical sides of the fiberglass doorway area by the time I am finished . . .
I found the same thing - had to remove so much material to get the cabin top to fit that I became concerned and called Van's Builder Support. They confirmed that there will not be much material left, and that the scribe lines are wide of what you eventually need.
__________________
Dave Macdonald

RV-10 First Flight April 1, 2020. Currently in Phase 1
2020 VAF Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 04-05-2017, 08:32 AM
Bill Boyd's Avatar
Bill Boyd Bill Boyd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Landing field "12VA"
Posts: 1,529
Default abrasive followup

As promised, a bit of followup on my experience thus far with abrasives and the cabin top. The carbide cutter in the oscillating tool is the most controllable and works well in the thinner parts such as the window cutout flanges. It also makes a nice pilot groove to follow with the jigsaw carbide grit blade. But the tool that comes closest to "like butter" cutting action on the thicker parts is this one -

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/c...image_8090.jpg

Note that it is more of a shaping tool than a cutting tool (unless you want an inch wide kerf), and it throws dust everywhere unlike the other blades I mention above that merely dribble fine powder at your feet. I ended up using all three to good effect.
__________________
Bill Boyd

Hop-Along Aerodrome (12VA)
RV-6A - N30YD - Built '98 / sold '20
RV-10 - N130YD reserved - under construction

donating monthly to the VAF - thanks, Doug
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 04-05-2017, 08:37 AM
Gary 40274 Gary 40274 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Conyers GA
Posts: 347
Default Free replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright View Post
Sadly, I've killed one dremel on this project already. Apparently a tool which creates dust by design is subject to failure due to dust ingestion. .

One little known fact is that if you return the Dremel they will replace it at no charge

Gary Specketer
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:19 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.