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02-21-2017, 04:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SW Missouri
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Any quickbuild experience?
I'm back to studying the feasibility of building an RV14. Since I can't buy a 14, and I want it done exactly the way I want it, I think building might be the way to go. I'm willing to spend a little extra to move the project along.
I've found quite a bit of info on actual build times for the standard kit, but can't seem to find much on Quickbuild experiences. Has anyone finished either qb wings or fuselage? Do you have a guesstimate for time savings?
From reading forums and logs, it looks like "aggressive" avg time, working efficiently with no deviations from plan would be 1200-1400 hours for the standard kit, but I'm unclear if that assumes paint and panel.
If I were to get quickbuild wings/fuselage, and have Steins do my panel, and I'm optimally setup and reasonably well organized, is 900 hours to a flyable, non-painted aircraft a decent estimate?
I was a welder for many years, and I've always been pretty efficient in the shop. I took the build class at Oshkosh a couple years ago, and while we only built a small assembly, I was pretty comfortable with it, probably due to the fab experience in my former life.
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02-21-2017, 04:57 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,768
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There's an old saying and it certainly applies here.
"Build an airplane because you want to build an airplane."
"Do NOT build an airplane because you want an airplane!"
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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02-21-2017, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 774
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An experienced builder working 8 hour days could build a quick build 14 in 6 months. A newbie could do it in a year. This estimate is based on my own experience.
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02-21-2017, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Edson, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 483
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RV 7 quick build experience
My QB fuse has saved me 200 hrs at least
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[color="Red"]=VAF=2019 Donation - and a bit extra for great work![/COLOR="blue"]
Empennage RV 7 - Tipper
Wings complete
Dynon installed and running
Fuse closer to completion, Canopy complete
AME reviewed and repaired O-320-Lyc installed
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02-22-2017, 05:18 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Simpsonville, SC (SC47)
Posts: 312
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Took me around 2 months, or 100 hours to substantially complete my 14A QB Fuselage, a few minor things to finish up on the cabin interior to end up painting the interior. Now about half way through the Finish Kit.
Seen or heard reports of taking anywhere from 800 to 1400 hours to complete a slow build 14 fuselage, so definitely some time savings on the QB.
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Simpsonville, SC (@SC47 > 10nm NW Triple Tree)
1946 Bellanca Cruisair 14-13-2 (73 YRS OLD 8/15/19)
RV14A (N14ZT), Ser#140195
Start 10/11/14
Dues paid 12/1/19 (USArmy 2/67-2/70)
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02-22-2017, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SW Missouri
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That's a couple of good data points on the QB fuselage. Very encouraging, thanks.
Does anyone have experience with the QB wings?
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RV-8 - building empennage now
1987 Mooney 252 TSE / Encore Conversion --- sold
VAF dues paid through 9/30/2018
Last edited by Indytim : 02-22-2017 at 10:48 AM.
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02-22-2017, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL KCLW
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There are a number of build centers out there that will assist you with or do a large portion of the work, you just join them for a few weeks or so. Spendy, but if you want a custom built 14, fast, that may be the way to go. Purists may not approve but apparently it satisfies the 51% rule still.
Chris
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02-22-2017, 02:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Leesburg, VA
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The slow builds will take much, much more than 1400 hrs, probably a minimum of 1000 hrs more and could make the QB route more compelling for you. I have 1100 + hrs and am no where close to being finished and work fairly quickly. If you want an airplane more than you want to build and can afford the QB, then that's what I would do. I'm happy with my slow build decision even if it delays me flying my 14 for a year or so vs a QB.
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02-22-2017, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,768
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Not Really.......
Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowJacket RV9
There are a number of build centers out there that will assist you with or do a large portion of the work, you just join them for a few weeks or so. Spendy, but if you want a custom built 14, fast, that may be the way to go. Purists may not approve but apparently it satisfies the 51% rule still.
Chris
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If you start with a quickbuild kit, there's not much wiggle room for paid assistance. Be very careful with this line of thinking.
A lot of people are already pushing the edge and the FAA is watching.
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EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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02-22-2017, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,558
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I built a set of RV14 slow build wings in 4-5 months and about 400 hours when that was the only kit available and there were no QB options. That included finishing the wingtips and fitting/rigging the ailerons and flaps.
A set of QB wings should take you no more than 100 hours to finish, probably closer to 50 if you have prior experience. You could probably do that in a month if you stayed focused, saving maybe 3-4 months - just on the wings.
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