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02-14-2017, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St Louis, MO
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Track/ALT seemed OK. HSI/ALT roll and bank jerky and steeper. Will adjust bank and increase roll torque next opportunity.
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02-14-2017, 04:30 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
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Your settings are saved to the thumb drive when you load a new software version. There's no reason they should have changed, but you can go review them if you want.
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02-14-2017, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St Louis, MO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dynonsupport
Your settings are saved to the thumb drive when you load a new software version. There's no reason they should have changed, but you can go review them if you want.
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Thank you! I'm not the builder, how do I review the old save settings?
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02-15-2017, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Coupeville, WA
Posts: 14
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My "custom" EMS screen configurations certainly changed after upgrading to SV v15, as they also did when I upgaded to SV v14.
For example, I rearranged the standard 20% EMS guages, removing the standard Manifold Pressure graphic, replaced by an enlarged RPM guage and added various engine/air timers and fuel range/efficiency info, etc. All of my custom settings were replaced by the default EMS configuration.
It is a real pain to spend more than an hour rebuilding my tediously arranged setup.
So Dynon Support: Please explain what I am doing wrong that is causing this recurring issue.
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02-15-2017, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St Louis, MO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mclark.whidbey@gmail.com
My "custom" EMS screen configurations certainly changed after upgrading to SV v15, as they also did when I upgaded to SV v14.
For example, I rearranged the standard 20% EMS guages, removing the standard Manifold Pressure graphic, replaced by an enlarged RPM guage and added various engine/air timers and fuel range/efficiency info, etc. All of my custom settings were replaced by the default EMS configuration.
It is a real pain to spend more than an hour rebuilding my tediously arranged setup.
So Dynon Support: Please explain what I am doing wrong that is causing this recurring issue.
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Same, I configured my EMS settings much like you did and they ended up as you described in a Default arrangement.
Last edited by AirHound : 02-15-2017 at 12:36 PM.
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02-15-2017, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
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The RV-12 can be a different case from our normal process.
If you are upgrading using the Vans release, then that does overwrite screen configs as it is meant to keep the system with the most up to date configuration Vans has for the RV-12.
If you use the files off of Dynon's site, then these do not touch your configuration. However, you also miss out on any changes and optimizations Vans may have made.
If you are technical, it is possible to edit the settings file so that you have just an EMS settings section of it which you can load on top of any Vans setting and get your screen layout back after an update.
As for restoring old AP settings:
1) Copy the settings file to the root directory using a PC.
2) Write down / take a picture of your current AP settings
3) Save your current settings to the USB drive
4) Load the old settings
5) Compare the "old" AP settings with the "new" you wrote down
6) Load "new" settings you saved in #3
7) Change AP settings to "old" ones as needed
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02-16-2017, 03:59 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St Louis, MO
Posts: 323
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Following diatribe is me commiserating over why I didn't write down the last AP settings before uploading v15 as suggested on the Van's download site, and determining my next course of action to reach AP performance nirvana again , so stop here if you aren't into SV v15 overwritten settings backtracking.
Not sure what settings were customized by previous owner, but the system worked great before and I think I'm in store for AP tweaking based on a short flight and notable bank increase and jerky stick in HSI mode when in a roll and roll ratel. It seemed to track and hold altitude with 20'to 40 degree direction changes ok. Oh well, need to confirm what I said, it wasn't the purpose of the flight to check the AP anyway, I just flipped it on and somehow there's a dif, not sure if me or totally Van's Dec v15 software.
John-G, tomk, or anybody else know the dif between the Van's website 12/20/16 v15 and the one now listed on the Van's web site as 2/9/17 v15? Which one did you fellas install? I did the Vans Dec version and it overwrote for sure EMS settings like those stated in 14 above and if it did that is it safe to bet that it overwrote customized AP settings as well? And other functions like fuel flow mentioned??
And, does the Van's change process save the old settings as the previous dynon post 16 indicates it does?
There's a listing of someone's AP settings on the web also one can print presets out from the Van's download page and most translate to Understandable data so you can compare with what's showing in the SV data setup fields. Although I haven't been to the plane yet to see if these lists of settings correlate to my SV's setup data fields. Hope it's simple as comparing what I down loaded in Dec from Vans and these two lists of setup data. Then I can (Course of action A): gauge and guess if I should just down load the 2/9/17 files and go from there without calling vans and asking what's the dif? Again anybody know the dif between Dec and Feb downloads from Van's site?
Or (Course of Action B): for the sake of having great previous SV version custom AP settings down load it again as it was exported by previous owner to a thumb drive and live without the nice version 15 extended runway center lines and glide circle I was gunning for in the first place. I'm ssuming the great older version AP tweaks are on that thumb drive.
Any suggestions or theory is appreciated?
Last edited by AirHound : 02-16-2017 at 05:27 AM.
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02-16-2017, 05:28 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Port Orange, Fl
Posts: 931
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirHound
... John-G, tomk, or anybody else know the dif between the Van's website 12/20/16 v15 and the one now listed on the Van's web site as 2/9/17 v15? Which one did you fellas install?
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I actually install updates from the Dynon site. I started doing that because I've customized my EMS display and didn't want to take a chance of messing that up.
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Port Orange, Fl
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RV-12 N121TK ELSA #120845; first flight 06/10/2015; 700 hrs as of 02/2020
RV-12 N918EN ELSA #120995 Eagles Nest Project; first flight 05/18/2019
SPA Panther N26TK; First Flight 03/13/2020
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02-16-2017, 05:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St Louis, MO
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Thanks Tom, makes better sense to me. How about your AP settings?
Last edited by AirHound : 02-16-2017 at 05:36 AM.
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02-16-2017, 06:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Port Orange, Fl
Posts: 931
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They've always survived the updates. As far as I know, none of my customized settings have been changed by the updates.
I don't use the AP all that much but here are my settings:
Roll: Torque 100%, Sensitivity 5, Gain 2.9
Pitch: Torque 100%, Sensitivity 10, Gain 3.0
Also, do you have a "settings_archive" folder on the flash drive you used for the update? If so, the old settings should be in the most recent version of "xxx".-SW_UPGRADE-USER_CONFIG.dfg:
roll_servo_torque
roll_servo_sensitivity
K_phi_ff_gain (I think this is roll gain)
pitch_servo_torque
pitch_servo_sensitivity
kff_gain (I think this is pitch gain)
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Tom
Port Orange, Fl
EAA #51411
RV-12 N121TK ELSA #120845; first flight 06/10/2015; 700 hrs as of 02/2020
RV-12 N918EN ELSA #120995 Eagles Nest Project; first flight 05/18/2019
SPA Panther N26TK; First Flight 03/13/2020
Last edited by tomkk : 02-16-2017 at 07:00 AM.
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