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07-16-2015, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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I saw this a few weeks ago and bought a 8' rod and two sockets. My RV14 elevator LE has three main sections so I cut the rod in three pieces to handle the different portions of the LE so I wouldn't have to do the whole thing at once. The steel tube was cut, and the grinder and some sand paper used to dress the cut edge. JB welded the socket in one end with about 1/16 sticking out. Used a 7/8 socket with 3/8 drive. No special socket or tube prep.
I ended up not using the smaller piece of rod because the two other ones did the job well. Two lengths were more convenient than one but I could have done it with one I think.
I held down one end and ran the ratchet while another friend held the tube down to the table. The edge rolled without any trouble at all and it looks beautiful. I think it is really a two person job but a strong person could do it all. The ratchet and socket prevented any spar damage and made it almost easy. The JB Weld held for me with no socket or rod prep.
Thank you for this tip - it made a tough job quick. I had struggled prior to this. Tool cost - $25; money well spent.
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04-18-2016, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NH
Posts: 226
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Eric,
Can't thank you enough for this tip. It worked really well.
I did my rudder leading edge today; first time doing a leading edge.
Happy with the results.

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02-08-2017, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Ozark, AL
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Looks great Adam. I just finished my RV-8 Rudder. Used this method, happy with the way it turned out but I still needed to a lot of hand tweaking and massaging to get it close to where it was not too much stress on the rivets. I worked them till the skins where touching (or almost) then pulled them the rest of the way and riveted. Spent a lot of time on it. Hands sore now. Tougher than I thought or maybe I am making it tougher than it needs to be? Or perhaps this works better for the 10 control surfaces and 7/8 builders should use a smaller rod?
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Last edited by Mach.26 : 02-08-2017 at 05:37 PM.
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02-10-2017, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 20
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Just gets better and better
I just finished rolling the elevator leading edge with this technique. Worked as well as the rudder roll previously.
I have also been using the same rod, with a ratchet on only one side, to remove the blue vinyl from the flat skins; effortlessly!
Thanks for sharing this tool tip!
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08-03-2018, 01:36 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 16
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Alternative Method
Hi Guys
I thought I use this thread to also share my method. It's low tech but works quite well. Especially for the bend of the RV14 rudder according the required bend profile as described in the manual. The thing is, that of bend the skin at the first part more than where the two skins overlap after the bend. The overlapping part is almost straight. I heard from a friend that he had to massage the bend a little after he first attached the rudder to the VS because the rudder leading edge was not bent "flat" enough.
So take a broomstick and a similar piece of round wood, cut it to length if necessary and simply hold them together with cable tie. It is easiest to bend it if you are two guys, one on each side...
F006854B-70A8-4032-BFB5-06718D0A9371 by Fabian Hummel, on Flickr
01E574E5-3BC7-4E10-8B09-79F3D94EF068 by Fabian Hummel, on Flickr
E03D2DA2-7CF1-4B7D-8F98-21981089CB78 by Fabian Hummel, on Flickr
FC71CB8E-E34E-4C53-9CF2-4D24B9C969A3 by Fabian Hummel, on Flickr
Best regards
Fabian
PS: I hope you can see the pictures  Had to do some try and error until they were visible on my screen at least...
Last edited by Swiss14A : 08-03-2018 at 01:49 AM.
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10-03-2018, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 279
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss14A
So take a broomstick and a similar piece of round wood, cut it to length if necessary and simply hold them together with cable tie. It is easiest to bend it if you are two guys, one on each side...
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Hi Fabian,
What were the diameters of the rods you used?
Thanks!
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10-08-2018, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TASEsq
Hi Fabian,
What were the diameters of the rods you used?
Thanks!
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I am sorry, I constantly forget to measure when I am at the workshop. It?s around 1 1/4 inch. But I really just took the broomstick that was lying around. The diameter is not really crucial, just make sure it is less than in the templates...
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07-26-2020, 05:50 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: SAN DIEGO
Posts: 14
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Rivets instead of glue?
I was wondering why glue was used instead of a pop rivet. My plan is to try it, see image. Can you not guarantee that the end of the pipe sticks out?
/M
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07-29-2020, 01:22 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: SAN DIEGO
Posts: 14
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The solution with just one 7/8 socket at one end and using a pop rivet instead of glue worked well.
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07-29-2020, 06:11 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Underwood, WA
Posts: 413
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ewumnrr
I was wondering why glue was used instead of a pop rivet. My plan is to try it, see image. Can you not guarantee that the end of the pipe sticks out?
/M
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Simply because that’s what I did! Multiple ways to skin the cat (apologies to PETA)
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