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02-01-2017, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 68
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It looks like I wrote the above too soon! I just looked at the Garmin website on the 20A gps. They say it's $850, non-TSO'd, and requires the purchase of a compatible gps antenna. Therefore I'd still be mixing a certified 330ES with a non-certified gps source at a higher cost plus antenna purchase.
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True .. however if you take a look at the 20A install docs in the G3X documentation you'll find that it was specifically designed for this purpose in Exp Aircraft:
"The Garmin GPS 20A, while not TSO approved, meets the ADS-B Out position source performance requirements for FAR 91.227 compliance when used in combination with a Mode S ADS-B Out transponder meeting the requirements of TSO-C166b and installed in accordance with the instructions in this document. Example transponders which may be used in combination with the GPS 20A for FAR 91.227 compliance are the Garmin GTX 330ES, GTX 23ES, GTX 35R, GTX 45R, GTX 345/345R, and GTX 335/335R."
I called Garmin today to confirm its use with the 330ES and they confirmed the above.
So I suspect spending a little more will mean a Garmin Transponder paired with a Garmin GPS. While I believe that GRT should be good enough, it's such a muddy area... I don't want to play.
Who knows!
DWS
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02-01-2017, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 68
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Originally Posted by roadrunner20
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I'm a huge fan of Raspberry Pi .. use them for several applications. I'll have to take a look ..want to mount in the back and use the belly antenna I used with NavWorx.
Thanks...
DWS
N142DS Rv6-A
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02-01-2017, 09:26 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,301
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Originally Posted by dwschaefer
I'm a huge fan of Raspberry Pi .. use them for several applications. I'll have to take a look ..want to mount in the back and use the belly antenna I used with NavWorx.
Thanks...
DWS
N142DS Rv6-A
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I recently put a transponder antenna on the bottom of the RV-6's tailcone for my dual-band Stratux install and am getting good service. The Raspberry is mounted on a sidewall in the baggage compartment and talks to a Nexus 7 running Avare.
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02-03-2017, 06:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 68
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
I recently put a transponder antenna on the bottom of the RV-6's tailcone for my dual-band Stratux install and am getting good service.
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Sam .. when I looked at Stratux it was a dual-band dual-antenna system... did you mount two antennas on the bottom? What are you doing with the other antenna?
Thanks...
David Schaefer
RV6-A N142DS
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02-03-2017, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Goodhue, MN
Posts: 160
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Originally Posted by dwschaefer
Sam .. when I looked at Stratux it was a dual-band dual-antenna system... did you mount two antennas on the bottom? What are you doing with the other antenna
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Not Sam, but I'm testing a Stratux with belly mount antenna in my 9A. Last night I got 6 towers at 1500agl and air to air traffic from 100+nm away. I have dual band receive, with a splitter cable (dual mcx to single sma) feeding one antenna to both SDR modules. Feeds iPad and my AFS 4500.
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Joshua Wyatt | Goodhue, Minn.
RV-9A N627DW @ KRGK - Flying since 2012
AFS 4500s | Stratux | SDS EM-5
rv9a.pacificrimsound.com
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02-03-2017, 08:17 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,301
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Originally Posted by jwyatt
Not Sam, but I'm testing a Stratux with belly mount antenna in my 9A. Last night I got 6 towers at 1500agl and air to air traffic from 100+nm away. I have dual band receive, with a splitter cable (dual mcx to single sma) feeding one antenna to both SDR modules. Feeds iPad and my AFS 4500.
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Same here, one antenna split to two receivers.
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02-06-2017, 02:35 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Rockwall, TX
Posts: 57
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Originally Posted by RV8JD
Hmmm ...
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain
"It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so." - Will Rogers
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I suppose I now know where my friend got it from.
I never thought to ask him if it was an original.
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02-07-2017, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Canton,NC
Posts: 190
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Gave up
Well guys........ I have officially given up. Should have went with my son's advice. I guess that Air Force Academy education IS the real thing. He's a C-17 aircraft commander/ instructor pilot. Yep should have listened when he said I should have bought my ADS-B out equipment from a "big boy". Sad to say, but like an informed person told me: "the buzzards are circling" Navworx. SOOOO, I am getting an Appareo ESG. Will be installing when my son permanently moves out here mid March. He will actually be flying my airplane more than me probably, since for the short duration of his remaining AF career he will be commuting from KAVL to KCHS leaving on Sunday PM and returning Friday in the PM. Already got him a hangar at Summerville, SC. It's a good 1 hour 15 min. flight in the -6A.
So, if by some miracle Navworx works something out with the FAA, I will sell my never been opened Navworx ADS600B-0012. The list price I see has risen dramatically. But, with the Appareo I will get a new transponder replacing the KT76A. I just ordered and received the Navworx stuff a week before the FAA did them in. My luck........ 
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02-07-2017, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
Posts: 2,247
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Originally Posted by Abbygirl1
Well guys........ I have officially given up.
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I feel for you. I was planning to order the EXP box from them to install during my upcoming condition inspection. As much as I love the little guy, the underdog, and small nimble companies that do what others should be doing... after the incredibly poor way they've handled this issue, I'm looking elsewhere.
You know, sometimes you get tied up in a regulatory snafu. It happens. It usually happens because you misinterpreted something, or missed something, or maybe thought you could get away with something (AmeriKing), but occasionally it's just not your fault. Doesn't matter. In this case, we really have no idea what the problem is or if it will be resolved. There has been a total vacuum from Navworx, which now (from what I'm seeing here at least) extends to simple customer support as well.
Screwing up is forgivable. If you screw up, own up - fix it - move on. But it doesn't matter whether things are your fault or not, clamming up and not supporting your customers is unforgivable. Navworx may or may not survive, but at this point it doesn't matter to me. Even in the unlikely event it turned out that the FAA was completely wrong, I'm not buying from them because I have no confidence they'll be answering the phone or email when I need them.
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Dale
Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
Previous RV-7 project (sold)
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02-07-2017, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
Posts: 1,955
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I love the EXP box and hope it continues to work, because there is no support or hope that it would ever be fixed.
I bought in early and was a big supporter of the product.
With the way they have and are treating their customers, I don't see how they can survive. They have lost all trust and credibility.
I just hope Bill is in negotiations with a big company(Avidyne) to maybe take over their product line & offer support for all the orphans.
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Danny "RoadRunner" Landry
Morphed RV7(formally 7A), N20DL, PnP Pilot
1190+ hours
2019 Donation Paid
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