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03-27-2007, 03:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 67
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unhappy engine experience
Sadly I have to report a very distasteful experience dealing with a custom engine builder. If you'd like to read about my bad experience with AvWorks, Inc., please go to my website . You can PM me about it here or email me through my website if you wish.
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03-27-2007, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs
Posts: 21
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Checked out your website. Sounds like a bad deal. Let us know how it progresses.
I think I met you once at an airport in central IN. Did you have a Citabria that was burned in a hangar fire?
Eric
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03-27-2007, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 3,821
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NEXT TIME .........ESCROW!!!!
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03-27-2007, 10:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,061
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Ouch! I read your stuff and that really sucks. Forgive me for being uninformed about such things, but is there any way you can file a civil lawsuit against this guy?
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Steve Zicree
Fullerton, Ca. w/beautiful 2.5 year old son 
RV-4 99% built  and sold 
Rag and tube project well under way
paid =VAF= dues through June 2013
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03-28-2007, 06:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 2,295
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Wow...I'm so sorry to hear about your problems.
I have to say that I had the exact opposite experience with Superior regarding my XP-360. I had a $1000.00 deposit on the engine and they called me and told me the engine was ready. "Ok, I'll overnight you a cashiers check so you can ship it out ASAP".
I was quite surprised by the response, "No, don't go through the trouble. Just drop a personal check in the mail and we'll ship your engine tomorrow." I was absolutely floored that someone would ship me > $20K worth of merchandise without guaranteed payment.
Again...sorry to hear about your problems. The best you can do is what you're doing now...help others from getting screwed too. You're much nicer than I am though. I would have forwarded the info to the AG anyway. 
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Last edited by Jamie : 03-28-2007 at 06:14 AM.
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03-28-2007, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 2,904
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Sounds Familiar
Wow, sounds frighteningly like my experience with a Canadian alternative engine company. Many got hosed by them. At least you are dealing with an American company and the American legal system.
Trying to deal with the legal issues in Canada were a total nightmare. Both with the process and the expense. They really protect their own.
There are lots of good Canadians out there but because of the potential issues in the event of a dispute I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM A CANADIAN COMPANY AGAIN. I have purchased and sold items to private parties without issue.
Sounds strong, but I went through 3 years of mental and financial **** with this company, nearly forcing me to abandon the project.
Do your homework.
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Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
www.JDair.com
RV-7 N717EE-Flying (Sold)
RV-7 N717AZ Flying, in paint
EMS Bell 407,
Eurocopter 350 A-Star Driver
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03-28-2007, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pakenham, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 586
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Originally Posted by RV7Guy
There are lots of good Canadians out there but because of the potential issues in the event of a dispute I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM A CANADIAN COMPANY AGAIN.
Do your homework.
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That is a pretty broad brush to use. I certainly agree with your last comment, but I wouldn't write off entire nation's business community (especially your country's biggest trading partner) on the experience with one company. Look at the positive experiences RV people are having with Bart Lalonde out at Aerosport power in Kamloops, BC.
OK, I'm off my soapbox now 
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Mark
RV-8 C-GURV (Flying since Nov 2004) - Sold 
Scratch building 4pl Bearhawk
Flying a '79 Maule M5-235C
President EAA Chapter 245
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03-28-2007, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 934
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Engine Builders
I'll add my appreciation to the great service from AeroSport as well. Sent a personal check and the engine shipped. I couldn't be happier with the service so far. They were even about a week ahead of schedule on delivery.
I sure think that if you stick with the bigger engine dealers, you're on pretty safe ground.
Jim
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03-28-2007, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 371
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Gary Bricker
Ditto for Aero Sport Power. Lot better than our local supply house in Ft. Worth.
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03-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 2,904
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No issues with Aerosport
I may have painted with a wide brush but, as noted, in the event of a legal problem you're pretty well up the creek.
I spoke with Aerosport when I was engine shopping. Although well respected, I could see no reason to not buy American. You don't get hit with Customs charges and State sales tax when Customs forwards the info to your States Department of Revenue.
If you had to go through what I and many others went through, you'd understand my reluctance. Again, private sales through individuals have been fine.
I'm sticking with American companies and distributors.
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Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
www.JDair.com
RV-7 N717EE-Flying (Sold)
RV-7 N717AZ Flying, in paint
EMS Bell 407,
Eurocopter 350 A-Star Driver
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