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12-01-2016, 03:47 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lacey, WA
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Yes, that would be Bob. His web site is www.rbogash.com
Bogey was influential in my decision to do the upgrade to SV. Bob does beta testing for Dynon and is very knowledgeable regarding the products. He tested SVT, GPS-2020, and HDX. He also has influence at the Mothership and has submitted many suggestions to improve the 12, all of which I am sure, have been well considered and some adopted. His 12 was built as a pre-SV plane and he installed the SV using the conversion harnesses. It works well, but he advised me going with all new harnesses and that was a good recommendation. It is perhaps more time consuming and a bit more expensive, but brings the airplane up to the very latest functionality. He did recommend some minor non-factory changes like the slotted engine cables and deleting the eyeball light, etc. that I chose to not do. I pretty much wanted the airplane to conform to factory specifications. He also thinks I spend too much time making things unnecessarily neat. He likes his panel to look like his well used B737 with wear and tear, worts and all. He will write you a tough love letter if he doesn't like what you are doing. I get them all the time. But his heart is gold, I love the guy. He flies his 12 down from Jefco to sit and have lunch with me in the hangar and comment on my progress and discuss world issues. His friendship is comforting.
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Last edited by Tony_T : 12-01-2016 at 04:15 PM.
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12-01-2016, 05:09 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Elkton, Md.
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So Marty, are you next?
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N588DF RV12 #336 built, sold and alive and well in New York
N73DF RV12 #244 built, sold and alive and well in Florida
N91 RV RV9 I wish I could say I built this one! Mark Santoleri hit the ball out of the park on this gem.
Currently restoring a 1978 Citabria GCBC
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12-01-2016, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Elkton, Md.
Posts: 1,652
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Originally Posted by PilotBrent
Tony, your wire bundle/tunnel look amazingly tidy. Textbook. Thought I did a decent job, but mine looks like a mess beside yours. Well done...as usual.
Your pictures are worth putting into the Van's installation instructions.
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Although Brent is correct about Tony's work, his own wins the prize everywhere it goes!
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Wag Aero Sport Trainer built,sold and wrecked
N588DF RV12 #336 built, sold and alive and well in New York
N73DF RV12 #244 built, sold and alive and well in Florida
N91 RV RV9 I wish I could say I built this one! Mark Santoleri hit the ball out of the park on this gem.
Currently restoring a 1978 Citabria GCBC
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12-01-2016, 09:44 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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I agree it is the cleanest install I have seen. Looks very nice! The only thing I could suggest is the use of the non-beveled nippy cutters to get a clean edge on the cable ties cutoff....and that comes from an IA friend who hates those sharp edges on the cut off ends of the cable ties.
https://www.radioshack.com/products/...5-nippy-cutter
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12-02-2016, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lacey, WA
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Originally Posted by cactuspilot
I agree it is the cleanest install I have seen. Looks very nice! The only thing I could suggest is the use of the non-beveled nippy cutters to get a clean edge on the cable ties cutoff....and that comes from an IA friend who hates those sharp edges on the cut off ends of the cable ties.
https://www.radioshack.com/products/...5-nippy-cutter
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Great suggestion - thanks for the tip, cactuspilot. Those sharp edges are killers. I'm going to get one of those nippers or grind down a hardware store side cutter.
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12-02-2016, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SC & CA
Posts: 907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony_T
Great suggestion - thanks for the tip, cactuspilot. Those sharp edges are killers. I'm going to get one of those nippers or grind down a hardware store side cutter.
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Tony,
I use one these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cable-Tie-Te...-/281900344570
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12-11-2016, 09:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lacey, WA
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Before and After -- Thoughts & cost
Before:
The D180 panel was a pretty good panel. I flew it for 6 years and 386 hours and it is all you need for VFR. But I was looking for something new and exciting, and the need to meet the 2020 mandate was a monkey on my back.
After:
I should include in this thread some discussion of cost. The factory avionics kit is not inexpensive! I bought the SV Touch, ADSB in and out and the knobs modules for $17,040. I reused the autopilot servos already installed. I spent an additional $900 for all new harnesses and misc small parts to complete the installation according to the latest plans. The total was $17,940. To offset this, I sold the old panel components for $6,226. That includes returning the D180 and AP74 to Dynon for the rebate. The net difference was $11,714.
To meet 2020 mandate with the old panel I was considering a transponder upgrade for about $3000. I know you can do it cheaper, but I liked the transponder change-out for simplicity and neatness. If I offset the $11,714 by $3000 I would have spent, my upgrade cost (adjusted for 2020 mandate) works out to about $8,800. Not too bad, all things considered, relative to airplane avionics.
I had hoped to get the $500 rebate from FAA for ADSB out, but it turns out that the Dynon GPS 2020 does not qualify for the rebate because it is not TSO’d. Oh well, as my Bro said, “The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away”.
Do I recommend ripping all the avionics and wiring out and replacing everything? Well, it is a lot of work. My plane has been down for 8 weeks and I have about 120 hours work, and a good chunk of money, in the upgrade. But, it was a good winter time project and I am excited about the new panel and looking forward to a lot of fun flying with it. Worth it to me.
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Last edited by Tony_T : 12-17-2016 at 07:17 AM.
Reason: corrected down time
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12-13-2016, 07:11 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Hinckley, Ohio
Posts: 2,065
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When Tony offered his Dynon D-100 Dual Display Kit for sale back in October I jumped on it. I just finished the install and set up the screen rotations per my liking. Very clean installation. So I?m running two Dynon EFIS/EMS, Garmin 296, and a mini iPad with ForeFlight.
Doesn?t get any better than this. Thanks Tony?
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PPL/ASEL 1970 - Sport Pilot since 2007
80 hrs Flying Aeronca Chief 11AC N86203
1130 hrs Flying 46 Piper J-3 Cub N6841H
Bought Flying RV-12 #120058 Oct 2015 with 48TT - Hobbs now 622 
LSRM-A Certificate 2016 for RV-12 N633CM
Special Thanks... EJ Trucks - USN Crew Chief A-4 Skyhawk
MJ Stricker (Father & CFI) - USAAF 1st Lt. Captain B-17H
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12-13-2016, 07:48 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lacey, WA
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Looks great Jim, glad you're liking it. Makes a very nice panel in the 12.
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12-13-2016, 08:45 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Hensley Airpark, TN
Posts: 143
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Beautiful job Tony, it really came out great. I like your rationale, a net cost of about $8800 for a brand new panel is a bargain. Thanks so much for your photos and documentation, I am installing the exact panel right now and it really helped (my install is not nearly as complex since mine is a new build). Can't wait to power up for the first time....getting close.

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