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11-13-2016, 09:37 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Bolzano
Posts: 13
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Taylor squeezer and cleco quality
Hi everyone!
This is my first message, but i follow the VAF community for a lot of time.
After one years of consideration and planning, i'm ready to order tools first, RV8 standard kit (fastback) second.
I will make two order, one to Brown and one to Cleveland. High quality for both,and both have interesting tools.
Now i have a doubt about the pneumatic sqeezer, Colbalt Jobber Drill and cleco(qty.1000).
If i order by bronw i can save 440 $, BUT Taylor squeezer, Brown and Brown cleco, have the same quality of Cleaveland tools?
I do not consider the shipping cost, need two anyway.
Thanks for the advice and sorry for grammar mistakes.
Vincenzo
Bolzano - Italy
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11-13-2016, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Crittenden, ky
Posts: 194
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Hi Vincenzo,
Fine choice of kit - I'm building an RV-8 also
I am very happy with both Brown and Cleaveland tools.
I don't have a pneumatic squeezer. I have a Main Squeeze from Cleaveland: http://www.cleavelandtool.com/Main-S.../#.WCisAmfrt9A I use it a lot, especially when setting 4D rivets. I also use a lightweight squeezer for most of the 3D rivets. I have a couple of yokes for each. A small yoke is nice for edge work since it's lighter. A thin nose yoke is needed for a lot of places with limited access.
I do recommend Brown tool for their spring-back dimple dies. I think the dimples look better than the cheaper ones I started with.
Have fun and good luck.
Bruce
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11-13-2016, 01:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Bolzano
Posts: 13
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Proud to be in the -8 company
I chose 3 yoke:
3" Pneumatic Yoke
2.5" Flange-Nose Pneu. Yoke
4" Thin-Nose Pneu. Yoke
if I need more types , a friend can lend its
About spring-back dimple dies, i thought to find the best to Cleaveland, I'm wrong?
I appreciate your help!
Vincenzo
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11-13-2016, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 4,435
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Other reputable tool vendors are The Yard Store and Aircraft Tool Supply. I've bought from them as well as the ones you've mentioned and have always had excellent customer service. There are probably others.
Dave
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11-13-2016, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
Posts: 3,947
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Clekos
Vicenzo
Congratulations. On the clekos, ask the brand. Stear clear of Clekolock. Wedgelock are best.
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11-14-2016, 01:36 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 26
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I live 15 minutes from Brown so I have a lot of tools from them. I have had no problem with any of them, but I did buy the DRDT dimpler Vs the Brown C frame. I haven't tried their C frame but it looked a little to light weight for my liking. Everything else even the Brown brand drill, rivet guns, and clecos have been good or better quality. I do recommend Cleveland for dimple dies. Browns were good but I liked the Cleveland dimple better. Seemed a little more crisp.
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11-15-2016, 03:43 PM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Crittenden, ky
Posts: 194
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincenzo
Proud to be in the -8 company
About spring-back dimple dies, i thought to find the best to Cleaveland, I'm wrong?
I appreciate your help!
Vincenzo
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I'm not 100% sure which company I bought the dies from, it might have been Cleaveland - but the good spring-back dies do cost more and are worth it. The cheap ones are useful too - I had a few places I needed to grind off some of a die to get in a tight spot. Also have the occasional need to chuck a die on a rivet set and pound a dimple with the rivet gun - don't want to use the good ones for that. 
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11-18-2016, 05:06 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Bolzano
Posts: 13
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thank you all for the help, I appreciate it!
Larry, I follow your advice, buy the Cleco from Cleaveland, I will not go crazy with bad Cleco
Dclaffey/SgtZim, Cleaveland dimple die and drdt2, are the first things that I chose, are all pleased with these tools.
Concerning the pneumatic squeezer, does anyone know if it is better taylor sold by Brown or that of Cleaveland (do not know the brand)?
I would make the order as soon as possible to organize my workshop
Thanks again!
Vincenzo
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11-18-2016, 07:05 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 2,052
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Vicenzo,
Check the thread nearby about squeezer problems with Yardstore squeezers. It would appear that their current offering does not fit standard dies easily and you have to use a compromise. You need to be able to get the ram fully retracted to allow enough space to fit the dies we use.
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11-18-2016, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Bolzano
Posts: 13
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The pneumatic squeezer of yardstore is the same of cleaveland?
Or i'm misunderstanding?  
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