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View Poll Results: Which association should I join?
AOPA ONLY 4 1.47%
EAA ONLY 46 16.91%
Both AOPA & EAA 213 78.31%
NONE 9 3.31%
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:31 PM
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And the Recreation Aviation Foundation!

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Old 11-03-2016, 07:35 PM
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It is relatively cheap to become a member of these two associations. If necessary, save up your spare change for a year and you could join both.

I doubt medical reform would have ever been accomplished without both groups. Medical reform may not be perfect but it will keep many more pilots flying non-light sport airplanes like RV's using a drivers license and making their own educated decisions about their fitness to fly.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:32 PM
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AOPA has moved significantly toward homebuilts while EAA has sold its soul. I think that the power lies with AOPA and I've been completely disgusted with EAA for a decade. AOPA gets my money because it at least is honest about its identity.

I think both do some good... AOPA just sucks less.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:45 PM
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I dropped my AOPA when Phil Boyer was still there and solidifying his power with his ridiculous "us against them" mentality when it came to handling the media. He made the situation much worse than it needed to be .

I like Mark Baker (AOPA prez) and I think they're pushing all the right buttons and I'm friendly with Dave Hirschman and Paul Harrop. They do great work. So I'm happy to support them.

The ONLY thing that bugs me is AOPA's PAC contributes based only on aviation and I think there's more to a politician than whether he favors aviation or not. Now, whether any of that money comes from dues (which are nothing, really), I don't know.

EAA? Cripes I want my ashes scattered in homebuilt camping. That's what EAA means to me.

Jack Pelton has been phenomenal and has almost -- almost -- washed the stain and stench of Rod Hightower away

The cost of supporting the two organization is less than it costs for me to fly off for a burger.
Spot on Bob. Phil turned me away from AOPA back then and I recently rejoined a couple years ago, and Hightower was giving me the push as well. Since then, I feel both organizations are our voice. I don't always agree with their method of operation, but I agree with the cause. Therefore, both org's should garner all of our support.

I forgot to mention; Both org's provide me some good reading every porcelain morning!
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Old 11-04-2016, 12:14 AM
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AOPA has moved significantly toward homebuilts while EAA has sold its soul. I think that the power lies with AOPA and I've been completely disgusted with EAA for a decade. AOPA gets my money because it at least is honest about its identity.

I think both do some good... AOPA just sucks less.
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The EAA affiliates are doing a much better job than EAA itself. I especially like Vintage Magazine. Sport Aviation magazine continues its long downhill slide that started with the retirement of the late Jack Cox, one of the top aviation writers of all time
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:18 AM
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Piling on but AOPA provides value to me almost daily: emails with links to interesting articles, outstanding safety videos and exercises online, and "heads up" emails about TFRs in my region.

EAA? How could you not see the value? Oshkosh, publications and emails, tech counselors, videos, and what about their influence over Part 23 rewrite and approval of Dynon and Garmin devices for use in certified aircraft. This is good stuff for all of us.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:47 AM
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The EAA affiliates are doing a much better job than EAA itself.
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Member of both.

Each serves a different purpose (AOPA twisting arms in DC with top-down supply benefits to aviation vs cultivating grass roots bottom-up demand from EAA chapters).

In my book EAA HQ plays second fiddle to AOPA when it comes to advocacy. In EAA's defense, once homebuilts achieved fairly equal operation rights to standard category aircraft EAA's advocacy efforts became somewhat redundant. But to me, EAA is the chapters, not the HQ.

I reckon if EAA had continued a legacy of fighting to keep aviation affordable for the little guy that the Part 23 re-write would have occurred, or at least would be EAA's HQ's top priority. I'm not sure what EAA HQ's top priority is at the moment that is different than AOPA.
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Old 11-04-2016, 05:21 AM
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I didn't vote...yet. I don't know what to say.

I love Experimental Aviation but best I can tell EAA does not represent me very well. Oh they do have a voice if government but still they are leaning the wrong way in my opinion. Now our local EAA chapter is another story! It is the best thing going. We have somewhere around 100 members and usually 50-70 people show up every month. Some do not have enough money to buy a pilots license and there are some that have complete squadrons of P-51 T6 etc type airplanes. Spam cans, all sorts of experimental types. some of the members work in aerospace jobs its a great thing. Now to be a member of the local chapter is only $20 but you must be a member of National EAA. This is about the biggest benefit I get out of the national program best I can tell. The magazine they publish comes to my mail box and gets skimmed through and the completions looked at but I don't really read it very well.

Several years ago I decided to get the lifetime membership because I see myself always being a member of the local chapter and there were a few benefits to the lifetime deal. Banquet dinner at air venture, Flight pavilion at air venture, jacket, cap, etc. They bragged this all up when trying to get me to sign up for lifetime then a year later limited the lifetime members to 1 or the other on some of the things promised. I call it false advertisement.

AOPA I was never a member of until my insurance offered a discount greater than the price of the membership. Now I get there magazine also....
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Heh. This thread reminds me of stumbling into the airport terminal at KSGS where the old men are sitting around kvetching that things aren't the way they used to be.
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Sorry to say that I gave up on AOPA a few years ago when I felt that they were just going in the wrong direction to BUILD general aviation. At my home airport GA is thinning and I reached out to the AOPA to do something, anything that would help grow GA. Yes they do some lobbying, but if they don't try to GROW GA what good is it?

I tried to get them to do something on the local level, and start with the the outrageous taxes we are assessed in many states for the "privilege" of buying, owning and maintaining an aircraft. Deaf ears. They either weren't interested or ???

EAA - well, I fly an experimental airplane so I feel that I must support the EAA. I joined my local chapter because I'm really interested in building. Wrong! They are all about Young Eagles and that's it. Yes I think that Y.E. is valuable to help stimulate GA, but that's all the local chapter is about. Still, I support them and occasionally volunteer to help, but come on! Experimental Aircraft Association is only a name in these parts.

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