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Old 10-21-2016, 01:01 PM
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This has been an interesting discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed. I have just started back flying after about a 15 year absence and now I've made more cross-country flights in the past 4 weeks than I have made in the past 30 years. So I am learning (or re-learning ) a lot of this kind of info. I was planning a flight from Huntsville, AL to Evergreen, AL to attend the SERFI fly-in in my new RV-12 E-LSA and I thought it would be good to fly a set of GPS legs that would miss the MOA's. When I get to my plane, I'll try to load in the 5-letter sites that I've selected and see if it knows about them.
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Old 10-21-2016, 01:02 PM
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In my experience I have found that controllers are largely unfamiliar with visual waypoints, unless they live and fly in the area.

I have referred to them in the past and controllers were puzzled.

Otoh, there was reference to one this summer on a NOTAM while flying into Simsbury, CT. They obviously were aware of that one.

My guess is that they are on sectionals for deduced reckoning navigation and pilot refernce.

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Old 10-21-2016, 02:28 PM
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In my experience I have found that controllers are largely unfamiliar with visual waypoints, unless they live and fly in the area.

I have referred to them in the past and controllers were puzzled.

Otoh, there was reference to one this summer on a NOTAM while flying into Simsbury, CT. They obviously were aware of that one.

My guess is that they are on sectionals for deduced reckoning navigation and pilot refernce.

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I think they may be much more familiar with the ones in and around Class B areas - the ones on the Terminal Area Charts.
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Old 10-21-2016, 03:13 PM
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I beg to differ: VPLQM= The Queen Mary, VPLHP= The Huntington Beach Pier, VPLDS= Dodger Stadium etc etc.

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OK, not *always* VPOOP and VPONX are just points in space.
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Old 10-21-2016, 03:16 PM
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Now provided that my Garmin SkyView GPS database has those sites in it, I suppose I can use these locations to route me around MOA's or whatever.
Do you mean Dynon Skyview vs. Garmin Skyview?
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Old 10-21-2016, 03:38 PM
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OK, not *always* VPOOP and VPONX are just points in space.
Interesting that they put the "VPOOP" one near Washington DC, sounds appropriate...

Apparently some are co-located with visual references and others are not.

They are all listed here -

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/vi...navigation-/57

It does seem like the two areas I am somewhat familiar with - LAX and PHX TAC charts - are 100% co-located with visual references.

Not so much correlation in other parts of the country though.
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Old 10-21-2016, 04:07 PM
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I use these Visual reporting points all of the time in my flight planning. You can go on skyvector.com, select the Departure and Destination and then rubber-band the magenta line to all of your intermediate way points. Select the Terminal Area charts and you can see the VPXXX points. Save the Flight Plan you create and email it to yourself with ForeFlight as the Destination App. When I get into the airplane, I open up the email on my phone, which starts up ForeFlight app on the phone. From there I can send it over WiFi to my Skyview.

Isn't technology great?
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