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Old 10-16-2016, 07:41 PM
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Default About to start building an RV-14 in LA

We are about to start building an RV-14A in LA.
We already took the EAA Sheet Metal Basics Workshop and are clearing our garage to start with the empennage.
We are wondering what kind of workbench, compressor and initial tools to purchase.
Please provide any recommendations you might have.

Thank You!
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Old 10-16-2016, 07:49 PM
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I am just starting too but on a 9.
I bought a home depot 29 gal compressor and it is working out fine. If i am riveting it only comes on every few hours. Doesn t leak and comes ready to go. Truly plug and play ; except i modified the drain with a needle valve.

I would stay away from harbor frieght tools except for the simple hand tools. Cleveland and browns tools i found are good. Standard eaa work bench. See my blog. Good luck.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:02 PM
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The exception to the harbor freight tools for me is this one: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html

I use Scotchbrite wheel on both sides - easy to use on a stand. I started with a regular bench grinder but the longer mandrels on this one, and open access to the wheel make it more functional.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:19 PM
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The exception to the harbor freight tools for me is this one: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html

I use Scotchbrite wheel on both sides - easy to use on a stand. I started with a regular bench grinder but the longer mandrels on this one, and open access to the wheel make it more functional.
I agree. This is the perfect tool for scotchbrite wheels.

I actually have bought quite a few tools from HF over the years, but I am very selective.

We currently use one of their mechanics creepers in our shop (about 1 year old at this point) because no one else makes one like it. Holding up well so far even though the customer reviews were not stellar.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:00 AM
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:37 AM
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We are about to start building an RV-14A in LA.
We already took the EAA Sheet Metal Basics Workshop and are clearing our garage to start with the empennage.
We are wondering what kind of workbench, compressor and initial tools to purchase.
Please provide any recommendations you might have.

Thank You!
A BIG hammer for the piggy bank one tool I wish I had from the beginning is my band saw, its a Grizzly 555 bought it mid build, The 7a had a lot of little pieces that were needed to be fabricated from raw stock, the 14 may not need as much of this? Welcome to VAF!
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:28 AM
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I have found this tool from Harbor Freight to be very useful, and it is very well made:

http://t.harborfreight.com/power-too...der-43468.html

Get good air tools - drill(s), 2x and/or 3x Rivet guns, because you will use them constantly. Some folks swear by a pneumatic rivet squeezer, although I have found I can squeeze almost everything quite well and quickly with a Cleaveland Main Squeeze. It is good to have access to a buddy with a pneumatic squeezer for a few really long rivets. . Also, a drill press is almost a necessity.

Have fun!

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Old 10-17-2016, 06:54 AM
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I bought my RV tool kit from Cleaveland and can not say enough great things about them! Outstanding customer service! And Mike has numerous videos on YouTube (search for Cleaveland tool) with tips and techniques for how to use these tools. I found them very helpful, especially as a beginner.

Also, I almost went with the main squeeze, but a friend talked me into upgrading to a pneumatic squeezer. I am so glad I did! That was very good advice, although to be fair I have never used the main squeeze.

As for HF, I bought:

Die grinder
Drill press
Band saw
HVLP gun (for priming)
Nitrile gloves.

All work just fine for the money.
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:23 AM
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We are about to start building an RV-14A in LA.
We already took the EAA Sheet Metal Basics Workshop and are clearing our garage to start with the empennage.
We are wondering what kind of workbench, compressor and initial tools to purchase.
Please provide any recommendations you might have.

Thank You!
Where will you be building? I have a nice work bench I'm willing to donate if you are close to LGB.

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Old 10-17-2016, 02:15 PM
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I'm about 2/3rd's of the way through the "tin work" on my 14A and I personally would recommend passing on the pneumatic squeezer and put the money towards extra yokes. I had a pneumatic squeezer from Avery and sold it here a few months back as I found it to be more bother to set up than time saved. I really like the manual control of the Cleaveland main squeezer.

Cleaveland dies are excellent quality and well worth the money. Get yourself a second set of economy dies from the Yard Store or ATS that you can grind for those "interesting" rivets that you bump into.

I bought a "Sears" professional 27 Gal compressor at one of their sales and it has been good to date. Got it for $249! Never had an issue of running out of air and it uses a 110V 20A circuit. Use it for air tools and spraying primer.

Other misc tools that I've found handy (mainly from Cleaveland tools):

- both std and 12" back rivet set
-12" double offset back rivet set
- Back rivet bucking bar
- both edge forming and edge rolling tools
- tungsten bucking bar (soooo nice!)
- std and cheapo Countersinks cages (so you can modify)
-close quarters rivet pulling wedge

For my workbench, basically 2 EAA table on casters. I added a shelf 8" below top to store skins so they won't get damaged.

I try to add a tool or two every month that helps with the phase of build I'm working on and it's worked quite well. Also watch for used stuff for sale here on VAF. Lots of deals if you watch and wait! Don't forget the occasional set of flowers for the Missus .... really helps when the Visa bill shows up!

Good luck with your build. It a great experience!!!

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