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10-12-2016, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Alpine, CA
Posts: 21
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Originally Posted by JonJay
If you can handle the crosswinds on 27 at Gillespie in the Citabria, you will marvel at the ease of which the 6 will be in the same, or worse, conditions!
I am excited for you.
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27 crosswinds are my worst nightmare! The worst iv'e encountered were at Brown Field (SDM)
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10-12-2016, 04:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Alpine, CA
Posts: 21
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Originally Posted by BruceMe
Back in '97, I bought and flew home my RV-3 with a wet-ink tailwheel endorsement and 70hrs TT. It is doable, but respect it.
Relative to what you are used to. It climbs and flys notably faster, it is more nimble and will feel more "connected" (on rails).
Being faster, you need to have skills, experience and judgement to stay ahead of it. This isn't some huge gulf in your flying ethos, it actually comes naturally and quickly.
Transition training is a strong recommendation for any hour new to RV pilot.
Cautions for RVs specifically; relative to aircraft tailored for low-hour pilots the landing gear is springy and unforgiving. Of special concern for tail wheel RVs. Your great grandfathers Champ lands 3-point at or near stall AoA. Stall angle for an RV is _FAR_ beyond the 3-point angle. Beware that you can easily land tail first and that has a certain 'bucking bronco' feel to it as you spring from tail to mains to tail to mains a few times.
Good luck!
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Good info, sounds like wheel landing is the landing of choice!? By the looks of the tail wheel mount design it would be springy! I see many go-around's in my future!
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10-12-2016, 04:36 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: hilltop lakes' Texas
Posts: 135
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Should I buy an RV6
The only reason to not buy it is if you already have one!
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10-12-2016, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Alpine, CA
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10-12-2016, 06:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pocahontas MS
Posts: 3,884
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Originally Posted by Superman1s
Good info, sounds like wheel landing is the landing of choice!? By the looks of the tail wheel mount design it would be springy! I see many go-around's in my future!
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I think the gear post needs a bit of clarification. It might not take the abuse of a C150/152, but it's still pretty tough (the nose gears on the 6A/9A might be somewhat of an exception). And the only time you'll have a problem with 'bucking' is if you land already fully stalled. The -4, at least, can actually be landed tail first in between 3 point & full stall, 'rolling' the tailwheel on, and settling onto the mains.
Wheelies are fine, but there's no reason to avoid either style landing. Practice both. :-) Conditions (or preference) can define which to choose. CG & flap position can make a bit of difference in which the plane 'prefers' (at least with the -4, which I have the most time in), but the pilot is still the boss.
Just ask the owner for a ride, & once you get to play with the stick/rudder, even in the air, you'll realize that you won't have any trouble with the plane. In my opinion (FWIW), you're in a better position to transition than a guy with lots of time in factory planes. You're still in training mode, and trying to learn. Guys with higher time in heavier feeling, slower reacting planes often have a harder time adjusting.
Charlie
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10-12-2016, 07:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,670
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Todd, there are MANY RV's in San Diego, Gillespie and Ramona especially. Several at Montgomery, too.
If you know someone at SEE with an RV, go up for a flight. If you want to come to Ramona, I'm sure we can get you up in an RV. PM me.
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Pete Hunt, [San Diego] VAF #1069
RV-6, RV-6A, T-6G
ATP, CFII, A&P
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10-12-2016, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Trenton, SC
Posts: 173
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Todd, I bought my RV6A back in April and just completed my PPL at the end
of September in a 172. I started my transition training last Monday. This
airplane is amazing. I feel connected to it. The handling and manueverability
is nimble and quick. I found it fairly easy to fly and to land. The only thing
that caught me by surprise was the speed, but after about 10mins of flying,
along with a couple of stalls and steep turns I was right at home. Landings
in this bird are easier to manage than the 172. Fly the airplane to the runway.
when you are about 2-3 feet above pull the power and let the plane settle.
My first 4 landings were very good.
So long story but hopefully it offers some encouragment. Find a good RV6/6A.
Get the 180hr and a constant speed prop and you will love life, especially in
higher density altitudes. Best of luck!
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Gene Mohr
Ret. US Army
RV6A (purchased), O360, Hartzell C/S prop
Trenton, SC (S17 homebase)
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10-13-2016, 01:01 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Shawnee, Kansas
Posts: 804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superman1s
Good info, sounds like wheel landing is the landing of choice!? By the looks of the tail wheel mount design it would be springy! I see many go-around's in my future!
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Many RV'rs prefer wheel landings, and I have to say, I personally feel they are easier. But 3-point is fine and I prefer them for getting the slowest/shortest landing role. Just be aware that it can land tail first.
One thing I should say... I enjoy landing an RV more than any other airplane I've ever flow. It's an addictive combination of hyper-bouncy landing gear yet totally honest flying (especially around stall). While in the air she just begs you to make it flawless every time, and yet at the moment of truth you almost always come up ever so slightly short and skip and skitter. Every once in a while... you time everything right and magic happens! Who needs golf!?
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Bruce Meacham
Building RV-4A 18ZM
Built/Own RV-4 254MM
First RV RV-3 3456B
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Last edited by BruceMe : 10-13-2016 at 01:13 AM.
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10-13-2016, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Alpine, CA
Posts: 21
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Originally Posted by rv7charlie
I think the gear post needs a bit of clarification. It might not take the abuse of a C150/152, but it's still pretty tough (the nose gears on the 6A/9A might be somewhat of an exception). And the only time you'll have a problem with 'bucking' is if you land already fully stalled. The -4, at least, can actually be landed tail first in between 3 point & full stall, 'rolling' the tailwheel on, and settling onto the mains.
Wheelies are fine, but there's no reason to avoid either style landing. Practice both. :-) Conditions (or preference) can define which to choose. CG & flap position can make a bit of difference in which the plane 'prefers' (at least with the -4, which I have the most time in), but the pilot is still the boss.
Just ask the owner for a ride, & once you get to play with the stick/rudder, even in the air, you'll realize that you won't have any trouble with the plane. In my opinion (FWIW), you're in a better position to transition than a guy with lots of time in factory planes. You're still in training mode, and trying to learn. Guys with higher time in heavier feeling, slower reacting planes often have a harder time adjusting.
Charlie
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Charley, thanks so much! I feel much more comfortable about landings after reading your post. Thank you!
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10-13-2016, 09:21 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Alpine, CA
Posts: 21
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Originally Posted by gmohr
Todd, I bought my RV6A back in April and just completed my PPL at the end
of September in a 172. I started my transition training last Monday. This
airplane is amazing. I feel connected to it. The handling and manueverability
is nimble and quick. I found it fairly easy to fly and to land. The only thing
that caught me by surprise was the speed, but after about 10mins of flying,
along with a couple of stalls and steep turns I was right at home. Landings
in this bird are easier to manage than the 172. Fly the airplane to the runway.
when you are about 2-3 feet above pull the power and let the plane settle.
My first 4 landings were very good.
So long story but hopefully it offers some encouragment. Find a good RV6/6A.
Get the 180hr and a constant speed prop and you will love life, especially in
higher density altitudes. Best of luck!
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Great info! The R6 I am lookng at has 180hp with CS prop with 6 pack layout, no glass! Iv'e been using ForeFlight..
Thanks for posting!
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