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09-14-2016, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Columbus, IN
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Counterfeit Dynon cables?
Over the past 18 months I've been piecing together my Dynon system from Aircraft Spruce. One of the parts I ordered was the SV-NET-15CP, a 15 foot premade 9 pin cable that has pins only on one end that you can run through conduit holes, then put into the DSUB connector after its in place.
A few weeks ago as I was firing everything up for the first time I went to finish that cable, but I couldn't find the color code info as to which pin was which. The other end is in the rear of the plane and hard to reach, so I wasn't looking to Ohm it out if I could help it. I was unable to find any reference in the Dynon manual as to the wiring color code.
So, I called Dynon support, who pointed me to the manual, and a specific page. I told him the colors on my wires don't match the colors in the manual. He said if they didn't match, what I had wasn't a Dynon cable. That's shocking, because I still have the invoice right here from Spruce! And the cable says "Skyview Network 15'".
I forwarded pics upon request to Dynon Support, but didn't hear back. So yesterday I re-pinged them. The best I've gotten is that they don't make any cable with the colors of wires I have in the picture.
I was able to Ohm out the cable, and it works fine as part of my Skyview network, but...buyer beware if you've bought cables from Aircraft Spruce like I did.

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09-14-2016, 12:28 PM
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ACS now offers "custom cables", so maybe ACS made the cable even though you thought you were purchasing a cable supplied by Dynon?? I'd call ACS next.
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09-14-2016, 01:12 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Minneapolis
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It's fairly likely those aren't actually Dynon (or SteinAir) produced cables as there are several obvious give-aways. The pins, the sticker on it, the incorrect wire color coding, etc...
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Stein
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09-14-2016, 02:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteinAir
It's fairly likely those aren't actually Dynon (or SteinAir) produced cables as there are several obvious give-aways. The pins, the sticker on it, the incorrect wire color coding, etc...
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That being said, they do indeed appear to be mil spec pins and appropriate wire. If the wire is imprinted with the 22759/16 spec and is of the correct gauge as specified by Dynon, I'd have absolutely no hesitation using it on my aircraft. I bet ACS can even provide you with their color code standard.
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09-14-2016, 02:28 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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I bought a replacement harness for my Dynon D100 from Aircraft Spruce last year or so......and it came in all white wires....I was not pleased because it didn't match the color coding called out in the Dynon installation manual, but I didn't return it. I just ohmed it out and labeled each wire.
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09-14-2016, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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What goes on the end?
Hey there
What kind of fitting goes on the end? I have servos on the elevator and the wing. I ordered the cable and didnt receive ends?
Can someone tell or better show me a pic on what goes on the ends?
Dave
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09-14-2016, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave4754
Hey there
What kind of fitting goes on the end? I have servos on the elevator and the wing. I ordered the cable and didnt receive ends?
Can someone tell or better show me a pic on what goes on the ends?
Dave
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If you are asking in reference to this photo
Then the answer would most likely be a dsub 9. Here is one from Stein. http://www.steinair.com/product/9-pi...ith-4-40-lugs/
You will most likely also need the back shell, also from Stein.
And, while you are at it, get a insertion/removal tool-----guess who sells it

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09-14-2016, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ctennis
And the cable says "Skyview Network 15'".
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And that is exactly right, a Skyview Network 15 cable. Nowhere does it say it is a DYNON Skyview Network 15 cable which would tend to indicate it was built by DYNON. The devil is in the details. 
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09-14-2016, 05:52 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
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Another option
There is nothing magical about Dynon SkyView network cables. You can make your own if you mind the need to have the data lines twisted.
Data is on pins 1, 6, 4 and 8. For these two pairs you can use a single four conductor, 22 gauge shielded wire like this: http://www.steinair.com/product/22-g...ctor-shielded/
Power and ground are on pins 2, 7, 3 and 9. Here you can again use the same type of single four conductor shielded wire.
The remaining pin, #5 is for EMS aux voltage. Here a single #22 wire is fine.
Buy some pins, pin crimp tool and D connectors from Stein and you have custom made SKyView network cables.
Carl
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09-14-2016, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cedar Park, TX
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Is this really the state of experimental building? The documented color of a manufactured wire? I'm not an old fart (I don't think), but still amazed.
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