MODE S for Candada

[simatos]

INteresting wrinkle for Canada--Im buying an ELT from Vans and they are asking for the MODE S code for canada. My local avionics guys say 316 is the code but ther is something called the 15 digit Hexidecimal ID. IS that something that would be on the transponder?? A little confused, ideas would be appreciated, cheers G

[TroyBranch]

It is on the paperwork when you reserve your registration marks.

[flyboy1963]

the mode S code is something like; C011DF like for your C170

in the aircraft reg papers as noted by Troy.

the 15 digit hex code is ON the ELT, and you will use it when you register it.

the Mode S code for Canada is 316, but that's not specific to your aircraft, it's just a 'country' code.


(please verify the above as fact, not internet opinion!)

[Canadian_JOY]

Consider the fact partially verified, Perry. It's a 24 bit code rather than the 15 bits you had referenced. Other than that little detail, all's good!

The Mode S code is the "digital fingerprint" assigned to your aircraft. It used to be that Mode S transponder equipment was the only stuff we had that used this ICAO-standardized code, hence the reference to it being a Mode S code. The reality is that it truly is a unique digital identifier for your aircraft. It is part of the info that is programmed into your ELT, along with the country code of registry.

I can also confirm that if you have reserved a registration mark, the code is included in the letter you receive from Transport Canada. This letter starts out in bold type with the words:
"RE: Confirmation of Registration Marks Reservation - C-XXXX
24 bit Address / Addresse 24-bits - Bin:" followed by the 24 bit binary code, the Hex code and the Octal code, all of which are different mathematical expressions of the same identifier that makes your aircraft unique.

[Mark Albery]

The 15 digit Hex ID needs to be programmed into the ELT by the supplier.

Part of the code will be unique to the country where it is registered, hence they need to know that.

They will then be able to programme a unique ID for your unit which will enable it to be registered with your national registry.

The 24 bit code that is mentioned is for transponder mode S identification. You do not need that to be coded into the ELT

The list of country codes is here

[simatos]

Great you guys, thanks so much, just put the request for my Registration so the info should come back with that, Cheers Gary
PS snow yet in Alberta?????
going to ED tomorrow

[RV-4]

Gary

Would you have a link to the web site where we can get our registration??

That is something I plan on doing in the spring.

Thanks

Bruno

[Flying Canuck]

I reserved my registration number a couple of weeks ago using the Transport Canada General Aviation Online Services site at https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...-menu-1798.htm. It was issued immediately and I got my hex/binary code right then. Couldn't have been easier.

[Canadian_JOY]

Originally Posted by Mark Albery

The 15 digit Hex ID needs to be programmed into the ELT by the supplier.

Part of the code will be unique to the country where it is registered, hence they need to know that.

They will then be able to programme a unique ID for your unit which will enable it to be registered with your national registry.

The 24 bit code that is mentioned is for transponder mode S identification. You do not need that to be coded into the ELT

The list of country codes is here

Just to clarify, in Canada you DO NEED the 24 bit ICAO code programmed into the 406MHz ELT. The US uses a binary code which is derived from the N-number. In this regard Canadian and US requirements are considerably different. In this case the person asking the question is doing so from the Canadian perspective. From this perspective the 24-bit ICAO (or Mode S - they are one and the same) code IS required to be programmed into the ELT.

[sbal0906]

Originally Posted by Canadian_JOY

Just to clarify, in Canada you DO NEED the 24 bit ICAO code programmed into the 406MHz ELT. The US uses a binary code which is derived from the N-number. In this regard Canadian and US requirements are considerably different. In this case the person asking the question is doing so from the Canadian perspective. From this perspective the 24-bit ICAO (or Mode S - they are one and the same) code IS required to be programmed into the ELT.

Just to add to that. The 24-bit code is entered by the installer (or airplane builder in this case) and not Van's. See 10.4 here (https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...-497.htm#s10-0)

Cheers,