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09-02-2016, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: La Feria Texas
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In the several RV12 rides I have taken, I noticed that almost always the pilots would NOT use any flaps, and touch down at higher speeds. I always tried to save tires by using the flaps and touching down at minimum speed.
Does the 12 have some characteristics that makes it easier to land without flaps?
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09-02-2016, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Windsor, California
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Other than in training when No Flap landings are practiced, my normal RV-12 landings are made with Full Flaps. The advantages of Full Flap landings include: a better runway sight picture (due to lower nose position), lower touch-down speed (less wear and tear on brakes, landing gear, etc.), less landing roll-out distance, enhanced glide control on final, etc. I have found that lateral flaperon control is very good with Full Flaps and 50-55 knots in the flare. Even in strong gusty crosswinds, I tend to use Full Flaps for the landing and then retract the Full Flaps shortly after touchdown. As they say, YMMV.
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09-02-2016, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Martinsville, IN
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Ditto what David said. I can't see any reason to not use flaps when landing unless some special circumstances dictate otherwise.
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09-02-2016, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: santa rosa CA
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Too much tow-in can scrub tires very quickly for sure.
tow-out can make for squirly handling, so I'd say a little extra tow-in (which wants to make the plane go straight) and tire wear is better than tow-out with squirly handling on landings.
Toe-in can be easily set with string and a measuring tape. My string-set alignments were better than my professional alignments I paid for on my race cars.
I thought that under certain conditions, like crosswind, that one might want to land with just one click of flaps and land a little faster so as to have a little more speed and control in case you got blown funny by a crosswind.
If in a crosswind situation, you come creeping in at minimum speed, it seems to me you'd have less time/energy to react and recover from anything funny that crosswind conditions may throw at you.
I'm new though, so these are just my thoughts. I DID stay at a Holiday Inn last night though, so, well, you know.
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