America the Beautiful

[RKellogg]

... doesn't the organization bear some responsibility for telling its people that they don't need to be 'jackboots' all the time? My taxes are paying his salary. Wish I could write a couple of lines into his annual performance review. And when you fly along the northern border you see just how porous it really is. What makes him think that an interloper is actually going to land at a border airport and be counted?? Somebody isn't seeing the big picture.

Originally Posted by DanH

Imagine joining ICE with visions of fighting terrorism at the hot spot borders of our great nation...then being sent to an isolated spot on a two lane road to Canada, probably for being a jerk.

[LettersFromFlyoverCountry]

We always assume border crossing only travel in one direction. But when the drunk Michiganders invaded, the Canadians stood on guard for thee.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/us/can...oat-down-trnd/

More seriously, the one problem with trips to discover America is sometimes you find parts you don't like.This would be one.So embarrassing.

[RV6_flyer]

Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry

Well, doesn't it just figure that when you finally drop into an unfriendly, unwelcoming, rude place, it's Minnesota, the home of "Minnesota Nice." Cripes.

There's nothing in the AFS about needing to call. It notes fuel is available 24 hours a day. And that the FBO opens at 8am. The airport is owned by the state of Minnesota.

I feel like organizing a massive unannounced fly-in to 48Y to protect our right to fly there without bowing to these people.

I'm sorry you had such a rude introduction to my state. It's cold up here sometimes. And the weather is often chilly, too.

IF I am available, I will join in on your massive unannounced fly-in to 48Y.

[n816kc]

Flew into Piney Pinecreek on the way home from Swan River in my 6 a few years ago. Pretty uneventful, but I do remember the Customs Officer seemed pretty cranky. When I told him I had been north bowhunting bears his deadpan response was 'we have bears in Minnesota'. Must not be a preferred duty station for these guys.

[Gary 40274]

What you found with officer Miller was that deadly combination of "low IQ and high authority". I have found that customs and immigration is full of folks with that problem. I even was threatened with confiscation of my airplane. Just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Gary

[ty1295]

I don't watch TV very often or get stuck on a sitcom, but reading this thread is like being held out for the next weeks episode to air. I keep hitting the new posts hoping an update has happened.

Great story and thank you for the effort to share it with all of us.

[Planecrazy232]

Originally Posted by ty1295

I don't watch TV very often or get stuck on a sitcom, but reading this thread is like being held out for the next weeks episode to air. I keep hitting the new posts hoping an update has happened.

Great story and thank you for the effort to share it with all of us.

You know he's just toying with us now....C'mon- just finish the story!! I have work to do!!!

[NavyS3BNFO]

Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry

Well, doesn't it just figure that when you finally drop into an unfriendly, unwelcoming, rude place, it's Minnesota, the home of "Minnesota Nice." Cripes.

There's nothing in the AFS about needing to call. It notes fuel is available 24 hours a day. And that the FBO opens at 8am. The airport is owned by the state of Minnesota.

I feel like organizing a massive unannounced fly-in to 48Y to protect our right to fly there without bowing to these people.

I'm sorry you had such a rude introduction to my state. It's cold up here sometimes. And the weather is often chilly, too.

Planned arrival time 8:59 am.

[mturnerb]

Originally Posted by Gary 40274

What you found with officer Miller was that deadly combination of "low IQ and high authority". I have found that customs and immigration is full of folks with that problem. I even was threatened with confiscation of my airplane. Just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Gary

Give some people a small kingdom, and they will rule it as a dictator.....

[LettersFromFlyoverCountry]

I did a little more research on this airport where Scott had trouble and I noticed two entries in the AFS. (1) it is NOT an entry point airport and (2) It is a "landing rights airport."

That's a term I've never heard of before, but here are the major provisions of a landing rights airport. It does not seem to make a distinction from those crossing a border to those simply exercising their freedom to fly in their own country.

Has anyone ever heard of this?

(2) Private aircraft. The pilots of private aircraft are required to secure permission to land from CBP following transmission of the advance notice of arrival via an electronic data interchange system approved by CBP, pursuant to § 122.22. Prior to departure as defined in § 122.22(a), from a foreign port or place, the pilot of a private aircraft must receive a message from CBP that landing rights have been granted for that aircraft at a particular airport.

(3) Other aircraft. Following advance notice of arrival pursuant to § 122.31, all other aircraft may be allowed to land at a landing rights airport by the director of the port of entry or station nearest the first place of landing.

(4) Denial or withdrawal of landing rights. Permission to land at a landing rights airport may be denied or permanently or temporarily withdrawn for any of the following reasons:

(i) Appropriate and/or sufficient Federal Government personnel are not available;

(ii) Proper inspectional facilities or equipment are not available at, or maintained by, the requested airport;

(iii) The entity requesting the landing rights has a history of failing to abide by appropriate instructions given by a CBP officer;

(iv) Reasonable grounds exist to believe that applicable Federal rules and regulations pertaining to safety, including cargo safety and security, CBP, or other inspectional activities may not be adhered to; or

(v) CBP has deemed it necessary to deny landing rights to an aircraft.

I'm awaiting a response from MNDOT, which owns the joint.

[edit] From the looks of this video, there's NOTHING at this airport. No hangars. Nothing. Other than the novelty, I'm not sure why anyone would land here. Seems like the border patrol could go a long time without seeing a human. Ron Lee landed here in 2008.