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08-27-2016, 04:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Originally Posted by Vlad
My 10 years old BigRedBee APRS tracker is faltering and I am thinking of replacing it with something more robust and modern. Any recommendation from seasoned hams? Which tracker is the best? I am not a tinkerer and wouldn't build my own. 
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Vlad, as others have suggested, take a look at the Byonics RTG:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=55138
I've been flying one for several years now. It comes already programmed with your ID info. Connect power, GPS and antenna and fly. 
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08-27-2016, 04:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
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So the GPS antenna comes separate. Any preferred location for it Sam?
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08-27-2016, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlad
So the GPS antenna comes separate. Any preferred location for it Sam?
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I would put it near the tracker. Some folks put all the components in a wingtip and power it off the strobe circuit. But if you have the tracker in the cabin you could put the GPS puck on the glare shield or pull a GPS data stream off of a GPS you already have installed.
Where is your present tracker located?
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08-27-2016, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
I would put it near the tracker. Some folks put all the components in a wingtip and power it off the strobe circuit. But if you have the tracker in the cabin you could put the GPS puck on the glare shield or pull a GPS data stream off of a GPS you already have installed.
Where is your present tracker located?
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Sam, my old tracker is behind me sitting on top of left side baggage interior panel. Clear view of the sky under rear window. It has a built-in GPS and I was very happy with it till recently when it became "cloning" itself. I am the very minimalist and would love to keep it tight and compact. I don't any GPS installed so I can't port a signal to the tracker. Would love to keep the glare shield clear as well. Wingtip solution looks attractive but all that wiring... My APRS antenna is on turtle deck.

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08-27-2016, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Palm City, FL
Posts: 315
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You may be right, but i wouldn't say "ever". I had a MT-TT4 in my plane and it worked fine except that it has only a 500mW transmitter and wasn't working at low altitudes properly. I'm now using the RTG which has a lot more power, but still love the idea of the version with a receiver especially if we could send/receive messages with it.
If nothing else, having a receiver could help determine what power we should transmit with. Hearing a bunch of stations we probably shouldn't be blasting out our packet at 10 Watts, or 50...
Lenny
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Originally Posted by Bill Boyd
is that you'll never hear a quiet interlude on a packet channel on 2 meters. Ever.
Better to transmit in the blind, at a reasonable output power and interval, and hope for no collisions. Listen-before-transmit is good etiquette and good engineering for land-mobile stations and of course digi-peaters. It's pretty impractical for airborne trackers with any receiver sensitivity at all.
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Last edited by Lenny Iszak : 08-27-2016 at 06:31 PM.
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08-27-2016, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3,179
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I've been flying with a Byonics RTG since mid-2011 and its has been "install it and forget it". Mine is self-contained in a wingtip with the little GPS "puck" stuck to the inside-top of the wingtip and a Pete Howell "beer/pizza money" j-pole stuck in the inside-bottom of the wingtip. Power is from the position lights circuit.
I know you like the option to turn your unit on/off when making "APRS Art" and you already have the TX antenna so I'd just bury a Byonics wherever you have your current (albeit dying) tracker. Since your current location has a "clear view of the sky" just stick the GPS antenna to the top of the Byonics tracker.
Last edited by humptybump : 08-31-2016 at 10:10 AM.
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08-27-2016, 07:30 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ellsworth, ME
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Check your PM - I have you covered !!!!!
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08-27-2016, 08:03 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Originally Posted by Vlad
Sam, my old tracker is behind me sitting on top of left side baggage interior panel. Clear view of the sky under rear window. It has a built-in GPS and I was very happy with it till recently when it became "cloning" itself. I am the very minimalist and would love to keep it tight and compact. I don't any GPS installed so I can't port a signal to the tracker. Would love to keep the glare shield clear as well. Wingtip solution looks attractive but all that wiring... My APRS antenna is on turtle deck.
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Yep, just replace your old tracker with the RTG and stick the GPS puck to the top of it as Glen suggested. Should be a simple upgrade. You may need an adapter if your antenna coax has a BNC connector, the RTG has a little SMA.

Last edited by Sam Buchanan : 08-27-2016 at 08:05 PM.
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08-28-2016, 09:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Napa, CA
Posts: 293
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APRS Messaging with the MTT4B transceiver
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Originally Posted by Lenny Iszak
You may be right, but i wouldn't say "ever". I had a MT-TT4 in my plane and it worked fine except that it has only a 500mW transmitter and wasn't working at low altitudes properly. I'm now using the RTG which has a lot more power, but still love the idea of the version with a receiver especially if we could send/receive messages with it.
If nothing else, having a receiver could help determine what power we should transmit with. Hearing a bunch of stations we probably shouldn't be blasting out our packet at 10 Watts, or 50...
Lenny
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Wow, we have not made the old MTT4 for many years! As you probably know, we have replaced the low power, single channel MTT4 with the high power ( 10 Watts) frequency agile, MTT4B. The MTT4B ( Just like the TT4 ala' cart TNC) has a built in messaging capability. You just need to order the keyboard/LCD interface and you can send and receive APRS Mail very easily. Of course, a 4 line LCD display is not going to have all the bells and whistles that running a PC plugged into your MTT4B can provide, but its cheap and effective. Also, the Avmap G5 and G6 GPS display receivers have built in touch-screen support for the MTT4B for mail and more advanced features.
Best to all,
Allen
VHS/Byonics
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08-29-2016, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Third Coast
Posts: 12
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Originally Posted by maniago
Ok thanks Greg. I wiki'ed APRS and after reading a bunch of gobldie-gook I did finally figure out it was kinda SPOT-ish. Just wasn't sure why HAMs were the center of it all.
I get it now.
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Amateur operators are the center of it all because that particular packet service is operating on amateur bands by amateur operators. I had one on my motorcycle when working special events as a motorcycle based medic/support guy.
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