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Old 08-14-2016, 11:54 AM
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Here is an incredibly expensive iPad cooling option:

https://x-naut.com/

I suspect you could make something similar for 1/3 of the cost using a RAM mount if you were in the mood for a weekend project.

Here is an article describing one person's effort using 3D printing:

https://sportstechnologyblog.com/201...-cooling-case/

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Old 08-18-2016, 03:04 PM
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Default My new mini iPad 4 just over heated

This morning I flew into PSM (Portsmouth, NH) and left my plane on the ramp until about 1:00PM. (It was in the high 80's) My iPad was in a case in my flight bag on the back seat.

I fired it up to go thru the start-up checklist and it shut down within the first few seconds after showing me a message indicating it was too hot to operate.

I delayed my departure about 10 minutes to let in cool in the air conditioned FBO. After that, it worked fine for the 30 minute flight home, but I was a bit discouraged that it shut down from ambient heat alone.

I never had the problem with my Samsung Galaxy. On the upside, the unit appears to be as bright as my Galaxy and runs Garmin Pilot way better.

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Old 08-18-2016, 03:14 PM
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As others have discussed, iPad use in the cockpit is problematic. I find ForeFlight to be an excellent flight planning tool, but limited to backup duty or intermittent use in the cockpit.

I caution against relying on an iPad for any element of IFR flight.

Carl
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I love ForeFlight also. But the Ipad and ForeFlight get relegated to a backup navigation source when flying in the cockpit. The Ipad is not reliable enough for that role.
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Old 08-18-2016, 03:48 PM
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Flying up to Oshkosh in the Cardinal, the Ipad shut down. Decided that the Ipad was just not reliable enough, once is enough. Purchased the Garmin Aera 660 at Oskosh for the return trip and found it be be worth the money.
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Old 08-18-2016, 04:22 PM
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Default iPad in cockpit

We flew Seattle to Oshkosh with 2 iPads and felt totally dependent on them. And our dependency was met, even exceeded, with the reliability of the iPad. My panel has a Garmin 430 so for navigation I don't feel at risk using the iPad. I used Garmin Pilot and co-pilot used Fly-Q. Both had ADS-B in antennas. Going to Oshkosh we ended up flying behind and around thunder storms and clouds. We weren't close to convective activity, but we couldn't have made as much progress without knowing what the weather was doing, while flying. Garmin pilot has a great way of showing metars and TAFs along route.

For some reason my iPad was able to get cell service at 3,000 feet (and above) so we received Garmin weather updates every 10 minutes. We also had ADS-B in antenna (GDL-39) and could get weather that way also, but mobile data weather seemed better. PS, Verizon.

My iPad did stop working a few times and I noticed this happened when direct sun light was hitting it. But it fired backup pretty quickly, in less than a minute. When I used sun shades to prevent sun from hitting it, there were no issues. Also opening the air inlet vent and letting air hit the iPad helped keep it cool.

So, I think the iPad is reliable enough for use in cockpit at least for charts and maps, and for traffic & weather. But you gotta manage the sun shine. And it would NOT be my only GPS on board.

Oh, did I mention ADS-B traffic. When we arrived KOSH and entered the hold around Green Lake my iPad screen was saturated with traffic bogies. Holy cow there were too many airplanes going around green lake to count.
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Old 11-06-2016, 05:29 PM
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Default No problems in 5,000 mile cross country

I used my iPad/Foreflight/Stratus 2 as my primary means of navigation on a 5,000 mile cross country last year with zero problems. I have it mounted in free air above the center console, with cabin air blowing on the back surface and a Kogan sun shade above to keep the direct sun off. I kept it charging the entire time.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:45 PM
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It is very common for the iPad line of products to overheat. That is why Guardian Avionics put cooling ports in their new line of mounts.
They advertise here. If not using a mount... find a way to get air flow to the pad.
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Old 11-06-2016, 09:06 PM
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I used to use a a mini ipad. It always overheated and went blank. I now use a Nexus 9. RV 8 bubble canopy and a Ram Mount for as much air circulation as possible. Took it up to Oshkosh last year in the heat of the summer. No problems. Plus I live in Atlanta. The summers are beastly here. No problems.
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Old 11-06-2016, 09:08 PM
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Default Tried X-Naut -

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After reading some on the interwebs this morning, I'm going to give the X-Naut cooling mount a try. There aren't too many reviews on it, so I'll report back what I find.

Link.
My first attempt at using the X-Naut was less than stellar - a self-inflicted but avoidable mistake. So BE AWARE and learn from my experience. To say I have 'high expectations' of a favorable end result is adequate, after the rocky start.

Jumping to the bottom line first - It's now mounted on the RAM ball on the instrument panel, and the fans give me hope of a good long-term solution (this is Arizona, and Halloween was the end of summer). Cooling seems to be a near mandatory prerequisite for an essential flight computer, ie, IPad Mini.

1) Design seems to be good and ultimately meet needs (still testing).
2) Instructions are VERY marginal and can lead to damage to iPad IF MISREAD. (RTFM, but don't act hastily) Needs a WARNING!!
3) Support - Website could use improvement but got a responsive email.
4) USB plug is almost falling off, due to thickness of plastic and interference (still working on that one).
5) Some very SMALL and IMPORTANT spacers/bumpers shipping in the 'battery compartment' and not found before it was too late.
6) Weight is excellent - very nice.
7) Does NOT include the USB CABLE, Batteries, or spare "very small parts", nor the RAM mount ball.
8) Along with the 'not included' items this is a little pricey IMHO.

I did not fully grasp the instructions on positioning the Bumpers/Spacers for the specific model (Mini2) and inserted it into the X-Naut and moved it to latch it in. SNAP = shattered the glass on the Mini2 ... no warranty, no coverage, not new. The design and "default" configuration is NOT for Mini 1,2, or 3 ... and the lack of clarity or warning resulted in damage. NOTE: there previously was a 'dent' in the corner of the frame but no broken glass. The pressure from the X-Naut resulted in too much pressure before I realized the interference. GOOD NEWS - My NEW Mini4 fits perfectly, and my wallet is thinner, too.

I've not seen any other product in this market that does the same function, so I'm going to tough it out, fix the USB port, and put a Placard Warning in the case to avoid someone else in the future repeating this mistake.

good luck - let us know how your experience goes.
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