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08-09-2016, 08:37 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Battle Ground
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You are right, the app is acting like your Soundgate. I thought they would just connect so as a test I turned off my phone, restarted the aides and tried to connect to my iPad (no app installed.) No joy. The iPad didn't even discover them.
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Scott
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08-11-2016, 08:24 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Originally Posted by bnt83
I too have profound hearing loss, its a daily challenge. So far the best solution I have found for flying is no hearing aids and the original Lightspeed Zulu 1 or the Sierra 1, and just turn up the volume.
Yes there are air traffic controllers with voices that are difficult to understand on aircraft radios, but they did prior to my hearing loss too.
(My hearing loss was antibiotics induced so it took less than a week to go from normal to profound hearing loss.)
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Brian,
Sorry to hear about your antibiotic induced hearing loss.
But it got me to thinking my loss happened while I was being treated for a bad head cold/sinus/fluid in ear issue....once the symptoms went away the hearing did not come back. I searched google about it after your post and I was not on the called out antibiotics, but who knows...my ear doctor never mentioned the possibility???? Thanks for sharing.
You might try the Lightspeed PFX...borrow or demo...you will need a IPhone or IPod with the Lightspeed app to control the cool features, see their website.
Best of Luck....
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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08-11-2016, 08:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Connect
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Originally Posted by sahrens
You are right, the app is acting like your Soundgate. I thought they would just connect so as a test I turned off my phone, restarted the aides and tried to connect to my iPad (no app installed.) No joy. The iPad didn't even discover them.
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Scott,...and original poster...
Imagine if PS Engineering did come up with a BT enabled intercom or audio panel that would link up to our hearing aides under the headsets....
Panel powered so no battery issues. No extra wires...
Seems to me if Resound can link to IPhone with an App....
and Bernafon uses a 3party devise (sound gate)....they should be able to do it.
I would buy it!!!
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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08-11-2016, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mahomet, Illinois
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I fly with two Phonak CIC hearing aids and they work fine with my Zulu 2s. I can also hear just about as well when flying w/o the Phonaks and just the Zulu 2s. As such, there is no reason for me to try the Bluetooth thing.
Most of my flying is with the Phonaks, however, because I forget to take them out before launching. 
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Terry Ruprecht
RV-9A Tip-up; IO-320 D2A
S. James cowl/plenum
(Dues paid thru Nov '18)
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08-11-2016, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Originally Posted by Rupester
I fly with two Phonak CIC hearing aids and they work fine with my Zulu 2s. I can also hear just about as well when flying w/o the Phonaks and just the Zulu 2s. As such, there is no reason for me to try the Bluetooth thing.
Most of my flying is with the Phonaks, however, because I forget to take them out before launching. 
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Terry,
I am happy for you, that you have a solution that works for you. This a good point to make that if you can use the CIC aid....it works well under the headsets!
For others following this thread. CIC is completely in the ear canal.
From what I understand, this small devise is only for mild hearing loss because the size limits the amount of room for electronics and also the proximity of the speaker to the microphone can create feedback in higher power/volume applications.
So, we that have profound hearing loss have to use the behind the ear units to get more power and separate the mic from the speaker. On the over the ear units, the mic is located there and the ear cup is very close to it and with the ear cup directing the sound at the ear canal, well, we lose some benefit of both the aid and the headset. This is why we could benefit from Bluetooth streaming the sound directly into our over the ear hearing aids while under the cup of the headset. Obviously removing the hearing aid mic from the system.
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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08-11-2016, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mahomet, Illinois
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Excellent info, Bob. Thanks for clarifying for all.
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Terry Ruprecht
RV-9A Tip-up; IO-320 D2A
S. James cowl/plenum
(Dues paid thru Nov '18)
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08-13-2016, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 182
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PS Engineering's PS Streamer
We have just begun shipping the new PMA8000G and the PMA450A, both supporting the optional PS Streamer.
The PS Streamer streams, via Bluetooth, all audio that the pilot goes to the pilot's headset. It pairs to all sorts of dongles as well as GoPro cameras.
The really great thing is that the pilot is able to adjust the volume of the streaming audio!
While we have not had any direct experience with a pilot using it to pair to his hearing aid, we would be glad to send as a loaner, the PMA8000G with the PS Steamer installed if that pilot already has installed the GMA340. It is a plug n play with the GARMIN audio panel.
If you qualify, please let me know and we will get started.
Sincerely,
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering
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Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering, Inc.
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08-15-2016, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Thank You
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Originally Posted by mscheuer
We have just begun shipping the new PMA8000G and the PMA450A, both supporting the optional PS Streamer.
The PS Streamer streams, via Bluetooth, all audio that the pilot goes to the pilot's headset. It pairs to all sorts of dongles as well as GoPro cameras.
The really great thing is that the pilot is able to adjust the volume of the streaming audio!
While we have not had any direct experience with a pilot using it to pair to his hearing aid, we would be glad to send as a loaner, the PMA8000G with the PS Steamer installed if that pilot already has installed the GMA340. It is a plug n play with the GARMIN audio panel.
If you qualify, please let me know and we will get started.
Sincerely,
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering
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Mark, Thanks for jumping in on the thread.
I did not see any explanation of how this works on your site and you did say it is new so I will ask here for all to learn from, as I am learning as well. There may still be some unknowns as this is evolving technology.
Optional PS Streamer: It pairs with all sorts of dongles. ??? I have googled dongles and still don't know exactly what it connects to.
Ok, I have Bernafon Aids and a third party Soundgate with Bernafon label. I am assuming my Soundgate is a dongle.
Resound aids can use a APP on a Iphone to convert their phones to a dongle?
I would like a direct connection from the audio panel or intercom to the aids themselves. Clearly there will need to be some electronics to do this, maybe the PS Streamer?...but I doubt it.
My audiologist has to pair my Soundgate to my hearing aids. I can not "pair" it myself. This is a hard wired temporary connection while pairing.
I have read threads that other brands might pair via Bluetooth and gives me hope that at some point we may be able to pair directly to the source. But I am thinking this might be proprietary coding at this point in time.
I welcome your comments.
Thanks
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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08-15-2016, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln NE
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I have an Octicon streamer that works pretty well with my hearing aid. The issue I see is that there is no way my hearing aid alone would keep enough noise OUT of my ear to make in-airplane streaming work as well as removing it completely and using over-the-ear ANR headsets.
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08-15-2016, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by bnt83
I have an Octicon streamer that works pretty well with my hearing aid. The issue I see is that there is no way my hearing aid alone would keep enough noise OUT of my ear to make in-airplane streaming work as well as removing it completely and using over-the-ear ANR headsets.
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I too am getting by with removing my aids and using the Lightspeed PFX and the extra features it provides. I also stream my home TV and I hard wire the radio in my truck as well.
I and others are hoping for a direct stream from the Audio panel or intercom direct to the aids while wearing a headset. Most likely with the hearing aids mic turned off. Then (hopefully) the sound might be improved/enhanced by the hearing aid that is programmed for our specific type of loss.
I have hardwired the headset jack output into my streamer (soundgate) auxiliary input and it works well, but is very power demanding and quickly uses up the internal battery. Plus it is one more devise and cord in the connection to the radio. That said, the streamer, ps streamer is a device but would be built in and internally powered.
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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