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08-08-2016, 03:35 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
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Hearing aids and audio panels
Some of the newer hearing aids feature BlueTooth capability usually in conjunction with an iPhone, iPad, etc.
Anybody have experience running BlueTooth from the hearing aid to the audio panel with BlueTooth capability? How well did it work?
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08-08-2016, 03:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I am looking into hearing aids now and what I have found is that they are usually not worn or turned on while flying due to interference with ANR headsets? Am I misinformed? Trying to figure all this out before I spend the big bucks. Larry
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08-08-2016, 04:24 PM
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I remove mine with when using my ANR headsets, I can hear fine with headsets only.
The cockpit noise would be to overwhelming to try to use hearing aids without headsets.
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08-08-2016, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Edson, Alberta, Canada
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Hearing aids
Mine are used for a specific frequency range such that in a loud room a female voice gets lost or a guy with a soft voice.
I fly with lightspeed ANR headsets and i have flown with them(hearing aids) and with out them.
When i first put the headset on the hearing aids chirp wondering what is going on? After that they settle in and do their job. These are high end Hearing aids at about 5K a pair.
In my case as long as i have my ANR lightspeed headset i have no problem with ATC instruction so often i take them out.
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08-08-2016, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Hearing
I have profound hearing loss in the high frequency range and wear two aides with ear molds so the volume can be turned up without feedback.
I get by.
FYI I bought the 5 to 8K aides for 3K at Costco and am very happy with the aides and service.
I connect my aides to my cell phone via Blue Tooth. From my research, the hearing aides are two steps behind normal technology. Sad to say. I feel sure if BOSE engineers would work with the hearing aid companies we could have awesome hearing aids.
The aids cannot connect directly to any device without an adapter of some sort. My aides are Bernafon and the blue tooth adapter is called SoundGate. Other brands do the same thing and call their devices by different names.
The Soundgate will connect to my cellphone.
The Soundgate will connect to my TV via an audio/Bluetooth adapter that sits on the TV.
The Soundgate also has an Auxiliary input jack 3.5mm. This is a CORDED connection. This will let you connect almost any audio output into your hearing aids. Like an IPod, computer sound, I even installed an audio out jack in my pickup truck. I have an adapter cord in the airplane that converts the headset jack to a 3.5mm Plug and wear the aides under a headset. This way the airplane audio is piped directly into my hearing aids. The main drawback to heavy use of the SoundGate is that it is battery operated and an internal battery at that. The more use it gets, the shorter the lifespan of the battery charge.
So back to the OP question of the audio panel, you could connect the audio out of the audio panel to the Soundgate via the cord. But to my knowledge, the hearing aids will not directly connect?.YET I say yet because the hearing aid technology changes all the time. Also, at this year?s Sun and Fun I spoke to PS Engineering and they were aware of this issue and are working on it!
Remember I have profound hearing loss, not the normal old age hearing loss, so many of the above comments about removing aides and using the headset as your hearing aides are correct.
Lightspeeds fairly new headset called the PFX is what I use and use it without the aides. The PFX has features that are often overlooked by normal users and therefore not discussed much. They have a feature that lets you increase the volume of the frequencies of the human voice without increasing all the others. They also allow me to adjust the bass and treble too. These feature / adjustments can be set as a user setting and no need to adjust each time I fly. So far this works for me.
If anyone knows about newer technology or something different, I am all ears, pun intended. I am posting this in an effect to help others as I have learned a lot through research and trial and error. Good Luck.
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08-08-2016, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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It might depend on your hearing loss and how the aids are tuned to augment only certain frequencies, not replace them all. I have a little difficulty hearing the phone through them when there is noise around. A fully sealed headset to the phone is better than the BT connection through my aids. I have not tried them in a plane. Also the microphones pickup my voice and connect to the iPhone via BT. This would not be working in a plane, too much ambient noise.
Good luck, if you try them, let us know what you find.
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08-08-2016, 09:06 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Denver
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When I was in to see my audiologist recently they used a blue tooth connection from my Seimens aids to their desktop to adjust frequency boost.
I have never tried to pair my aids to my panel, because they work so well under my Lightspeeds. I will check it out next flight.
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08-09-2016, 07:56 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Battle Ground
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My Resound hearing aides connect via bluetooth directly to my iPhone without any other device. I can adjust the volume and select different hearing programs from my phone. When talking on the phone or listening to music the sound can be sent through the aides, although listening to music really eats up the batteries.
I wondered if I could connect to my PSEngineering panel but based on previous posts it doesn't seem so.
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08-09-2016, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Resound
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Originally Posted by sahrens
My Resound hearing aides connect via bluetooth directly to my iPhone without any other device. I can adjust the volume and select different hearing programs from my phone. When talking on the phone or listening to music the sound can be sent through the aides, although listening to music really eats up the batteries.
I wondered if I could connect to my PSEngineering panel but based on previous posts it doesn't seem so.
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Scott,
Did you install an APP on your IPhone to do this?
If so, the App has turned your IPhone into a devise like my Soundgate from Bernafon. How do you or can you connect to your TV? or auxiliary devise's?
Thanks for your input!
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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08-09-2016, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln NE
Posts: 77
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I too have profound hearing loss, its a daily challenge. So far the best solution I have found for flying is no hearing aids and the original Lightspeed Zulu 1 or the Sierra 1, and just turn up the volume.
Yes there are air traffic controllers with voices that are difficult to understand on aircraft radios, but they did prior to my hearing loss too.
(My hearing loss was antibiotics induced so it took less than a week to go from normal to profound hearing loss.)
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