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08-01-2016, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Sorry it took me this long to chime in here: we're just getting back from Oshkosh. I'll try to answer most of the questions that we have answers (or non-answers) for so far:
First, everything we showed at Oshkosh was prototype. There WILL be changes to software and hardware between now and release. So thanks for your feedback here, but some of the details are still flexible (and your feedback will help guide us).
EMS horizontal band and other UI/UX changes: Because of the switch away from the joystick knobs and other technical things that are common between SkyView Classic (ie non-touch) and SkyView Touch, but that are different from SkyView HDX, the user interface changes aren't currently slated to come to the existing systems.
Software and features: All products have lifecycles, and over time SkyView HDX will be the flagship that gets the "latest and greatest" features, with SkyView Classic and Touch getting fixes and smaller improvements. The exact timeframes and differences are still to be determined, but we want all our customers to get real long term value from their purchases. Frankly, a delighted existing customer is the biggest source of the next customer, so we have incentive to treat you right. The version 15 features announced at Oshkosh are coming to all products.
Upgrades / Trade-ins: As I said above, a delighted existing customer is the biggest source of the next customer. We're still a bit away from SkyView HDX's release, but we always want to have a way for existing customers to get to the latest and greatest systems. We don't have anything to announce today, but we're listening and thinking.
Mounting / Bezel: The mechanical of the new design meant that we had to move the bottom screw holes. So upgrades will required drilling two new holes. If you're coming from SkyView Classic or SkyView Touch, there will be a small gap to fill underneath the angled controls, and I think we're looking at crafting a special plate that does that for people upgrading without any fuss. That's yet to be designed/finalized, so I don't want to over-commit there. Basically, we want this product to be as close to plug and play as possible.
Screen size: The actual screen size of the 7" and 10" displays are very similar to existing SkyView displays. I don't have the final dimensions handy, with much of our team still flying airplanes back across the country. Resolution and other display properties make them a substantially improved visually over SkyView Classic and Touch, as any of you that saw them in the booth saw.
Menu/UI: Definitely still in development. Much of the simplification of the menus and the visual hinting that makes a great UI intuitive to use isn't in the software yet (though from the direction I can see from the inside, I'm pretty excited about it.)
Michael Schofield
Dynon Avionics
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08-01-2016, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: San Diego, CA
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I did not go to Oshkosh so have not seen it yet, but what is the actual resolution and max brightness in nits? Neither value seems to have been published yet.
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08-01-2016, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
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Resolution is a class-leading 1280 x 800. Brightness hasn't been finalized, and I don't know if we'll ultimately publish a spec. But it will be at least as bright as SkyView, which is easily visible in direct sunlight. The subjective brightness will be improved even if the "spec" is the same because of better viewing angles and a different screen surface treatment for anti-reflective properties.
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08-02-2016, 01:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Canada
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I have to say I'm a little disappointed with the removal of the joystick . That was one feature that had me leaning towards skyview vs garmin
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08-02-2016, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Port Orange, Fl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Postaltwo
I have to say I'm a little disappointed with the removal of the joystick . That was one feature that had me leaning towards skyview vs garmin
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Same here. I use them a lot on my Touch, especially in rough air ...
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08-05-2016, 06:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bay Area, CA
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1280x800 looks good on a panel. Calling it "retina class" is an overstatement though
I played with the unit at OSH and found it easy to manipulate and intuitive. I have no previous Dynon experience. Looking forward to general availability of those units.
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08-07-2016, 06:52 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
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Any news on the production and delivery date yet?
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08-07-2016, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: X35 - Ocala, FL
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They likely won't have that date for a little while, but they are saying Fall.
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08-07-2016, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: X35 - Ocala, FL
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I did some menu navigating and overall use with the HDX and I don't feel like you will be missing much without the joystick. Some things are easier without it. The main problem with the joystick is that is can be hard to push because it wants to joystick unless you stabilize the knob before pushing. There are a few functions that you must touch the screen for, but the buttons and touch features are bigger than in the Skyview Touch. I think removing the joystick was a good move. I really like the feel of the new knobs, and the backlight is nice too.
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08-07-2016, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse
I did some menu navigating and overall use with the HDX and I don't feel like you will be missing much without the joystick. Some things are easier without it. The main problem with the joystick is that is can be hard to push because it wants to joystick unless you stabilize the knob before pushing. There are a few functions that you must touch the screen for, but the buttons and touch features are bigger than in the Skyview Touch. I think removing the joystick was a good move. I really like the feel of the new knobs, and the backlight is nice too.
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So in your opinion why would someone choose skyview over g3x touch ? Garmin has knobs and touch interface as well ,in fact they have 2 knobs each side
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