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Old 07-22-2016, 01:03 PM
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Mel, there is no new "rule"------there is a new law.
Call it what you want. The "law" states, "(a) In General.—Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall issue or revise regulations to ensure that an individual may operate as pilot in command of a covered aircraft if—"

Whatever you call it, it's binding.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:25 PM
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It just seems like a major law change like this would have at least prompted a response of some kind from the FAA administrator,,,,maybe he is waiting on Oshkosh.
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Old 07-22-2016, 03:43 PM
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Call it what you want. The "law" states, "(a) In General.?Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall issue or revise regulations to ensure that an individual may operate as pilot in command of a covered aircraft if?"

Whatever you call it, it's binding.
The Government still has to comply with the Administrative Procedures Act for all rule making and this law did not give the FAA authority to circumvent it. The new law states the FAA has 180 days to "issue or revise regulations", this is known as the "Notice of Proposed Rule Making" (NPRM), and one year to push it all through the process to finalization. If they can't get it finalized within 1yr then they can not take enforcement action against a pilot complying in good faith with the law.

Government actions are not as simplistic as most people believe. So I call it what it is, not what I would like it to be.
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Government actions are not as simplistic as most people believe. So I call it what it is, not what I would like it to be.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the TL;DR is.. we still have a year to wait?
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Old 07-22-2016, 04:53 PM
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the TL;DR is.. we still have a year to wait?
One year would be the max if the FAA doesn't do something before that date.
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Old 07-22-2016, 05:04 PM
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the TL;DR is.. we still have a year to wait?
Yes. The new law did not eliminate the old rules it just told the "government" to make new legal rules/regulations and to do it within one year. Multiple government agencies, in this case not just the FAA, are involved in legal rule/regulation making so the "government" may take more than 1 year to do it. However, the new law also states that if in 1yr new rules/regulations have not become legal, then the FAA can not take enforcement action against any pilot complying in good faith with the law. In the mean time the old rules continue to legally apply. In this aspect nothing has changed.

Government bureaucracy at it's best/worst. So, "patience grasshopper, patience".

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One year would be the max if the FAA doesn't do something before that date.
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:10 PM
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Question Just one more?

My third class expired the end of April this year. I went light sport cause I read some time ago that if you had not been denied a medical in the last ten years you would be good to go. Was that idea scrapped? Did I miss something?
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:30 PM
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My third class expired the end of April this year. I went light sport cause I read some time ago that if you had not been denied a medical in the last ten years you would be good to go. Was that idea scrapped? Did I miss something?
You must have missed it. For now you are stuck with light sport. But within a year you can go to your physician and if he signs off the still-to-be-finalized form, then you'll be good up to 18,000', 6 passengers, gross weight less than 6000 lbs, etc. Assuming you have a private license.
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:32 PM
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My third class expired the end of April this year. I went light sport cause I read some time ago that if you had not been denied a medical in the last ten years you would be good to go. Was that idea scrapped? Did I miss something?
Nothing changed for the Sport Pilot. The new law/rules apply to pilots requiring a Class III medical.

And BTW for Sport Pilot, your "last" medical cannot have been denied or revoked period, regardless of time in history.
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:57 PM
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You must have missed it. For now you are stuck with light sport. But within a year you can go to your physician and if he signs off the still-to-be-finalized form, then you'll be good up to 18,000', 6 passengers, gross weight less than 6000 lbs, etc. Assuming you have a private license.
By my physician you mean a non AME? And I must do this within one year of my old medical expiration? I am sorry to be so dense it is just that I have heard so many explanations of this thing,including another one this morning that .......well you know.
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