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07-14-2016, 04:25 PM
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And don't forget new pilots. As expensive as it is to learn to fly, it seems like the Sport Pilot license might continue to be either a good stepping stone to a higher license or the final step for someone who just wants to get their feet off the ground. LSAs will still have a role for those Sport Pilots.
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07-14-2016, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID/Casa Grande, AZ
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I don't believe this legislation will hurt the-12. So far, all the Cessna drivers who have been in my plane instantly fall in love with it from a number of points...overall handling; but most of all the instrumentation.
The old spam-cans (GA) versions are still FAA controlled as to TSO'ed equipment making the cost prohibitive to upgrade.
How can (GA) compete with $20k for a nicely outfitted dual screen moving map display with auti-pilot, weather and traffic?
What the passing of this bill will do for me is.....remove the altitude and night restrictions...as I will be able to function as a "private pilot" instead of sport...tippy skippy!
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07-14-2016, 06:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Anywhere, USA
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Don't forget about the ADSB 2020 issues that will come up soon. 
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07-14-2016, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: santa rosa CA
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Having had open heart surgery and mechanical valve installed, I'm in great health now and could pass a medical, but NO WAY I'm going near trying and not passing for some reason and getting grounded forever.
Also, I couldn't afford a larger plane anyways, own, or maintain, so I am SO happy with my RV12! I expect it to serve my needs for many years.
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Originally Posted by philrisl
I don't believe the values will tank. I own/fly a Rans S19, we'll equipped and like the RV12, a ball to fly. As I have had open heart surgery within the last year and a half, I would have to get a special issuance one time. Not likely I would have a problem as I am healthy, but if I failed I could not longer fly LSA. Not worth even the minimal risk. As an A&P IA maintenance costs for a certified airplane are not much of an issue for me.
The better performance of LSA well as the availability of better equipment will keep me flying light sport.
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07-14-2016, 07:14 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Defiance, MO
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Originally Posted by vlittle
What is good for GA is good for all of us.
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Exactly. We now know how to get things changed. Looking forward to see what we can get through congress in PBOR3. The FAA needs another funding bill next year.
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07-14-2016, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chesterfield, Missouri
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The need for reform of medical standards for pilots transcends any economic consequences.
It should have been done a long time ago starting with the age 60 retirement of airline pilots which ironically was changed for economic reasons when it happened. There never was a medical reason for age 60 retirement.
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07-14-2016, 10:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
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I primarily see these changes helping out the guy that wants to get back (or stay) in the air but can't afford the $100-150k light sport airplane, but CAN afford the $15-50k bird. So, I can see the value of the Cessna's and Cherokee's maybe going up a little, but I can't see how that's really going to affect any of the light sport aircraft.
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07-14-2016, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
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Originally Posted by DaleB
I call that the "aviation death penalty", or "AME Russian roulette". If you pass, you're golden... if you don't you're hosed completely and permanently. So, you have two guys with identical conditions and history. One can fly until he is too old to get in the plane any more, because he didn't even try to get a medical. The other is permanently grounded because he tried. It's like having tea with the Mad Hatter and March Hare.
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That's typical government....rewarding bad behavior and punishing good behavior.
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07-15-2016, 06:32 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 254
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I don't think it'll have much effect on RV-12's or RANS S-19's, etc. But it could certainly cause the value of J-3's to fall relative to Cessna 140's.
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07-15-2016, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 164
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I am building a E-AB Rans S7-S and expect it to be exactly what I want and need to fly off my farm and much better for my uses than the certificated Champ I sold last year.
Short of some windfall, I will keep my ELSA Flight Design CTSW. I already have a panel upgrade on hand and will see if I can get it IFR qualified. Of all the things the new rules will give me is the ability to file IFR up through an overcast and make an approach a couple of hundred miles away. I do some long distances in my ELSA and this will make more trips possible and safer. No, I am not going to fly it in convective or icing conditions, but there are many days when it would get me through a thin, low overcast.
Sure, now I'd like to have my T-210 back, and the wife and I have casually chatted about how nice it would be to have an honest 4 passenger airplane (yes, I know how many seats that takes  ) but I am not sure I am willing to go back to an A&P now that I've been maintaining my own aircraft.
If Vans had offered a metal, tail wheel, tandem, I'd build one, so sorry for lurking here with other airplanes but you have a good group with very useful information and I do donate so I don't feel too badly about being a stranger in a strange land.
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