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06-21-2016, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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FAA Unapproved parts notification for Aveo Engineering lights
I know we don't need "approved" parts for our aircraft, but it makes you wonder what else they may be up to...
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/safety/p...01Aveo_UPN.pdf
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06-21-2016, 11:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Cloverdale CA
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This is truly disturbing and pi**** me off
I just installed a set of Aveo lights in my plane (not the ones listed). I bought them through Aircraft Spruce.
The FAA is very clear about the fact that Aveo flat out lied about the TSO listing on a number of their products right up until this past February when they apparently got caught.
You just don't expect lying scammers in this industry at this level.
If Aveo lied about the TSO listing what else are they misrepresenting? What kind of products are the producing? Since they have no qualms about lying - how could you ever trust any product from them?
The simple answer is, you can't.
Since I just last week registered my lights with them I'm going to contact them and let them know I feel totally ripped off my their internet scam.
I will also post the FAA notice on every aviation forum I can think of.
I am also contacting Aircraft Spruce and suggesting they reconsider re-selling Aveo products in light of their mis-representation of their products and deceptive advertising methods.
Color me - pi**** in Cloverdale.
Gary
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06-22-2016, 07:02 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gold Hill, NC25
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I wrote about this over 2 years ago.
http://www.teamaerodynamix.com/shop/...hanYoursv5.pdf
Independent tests showed they did not meet the standard. It was a head scratcher then. Not so much today.

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06-22-2016, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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Interesting. I use an Aveo product in my wings. It was already installed when I purchased the plane. Seemed fine until one strobe stopped working. They were very good to me about replacing it out of warranty. The odd thing is that the new strobe was multiple times brighter than the old one in the other wingtip. The difference in levels bothers me enough to contemplate trying to buy a replacement for that side. But I don't fly at night so I haven't bothered. Now I am curious to go back and look at what kind of claims they made for the particular ones I own.
PS. Aveo has a full page of EASA TSO photos on their homepage
http://www.aveoengineering.com/
It seems like they are saying that there is an agreement that an EASA TSO is valid as an FAA TSO while in the US...a sort of reciprocal agreement.
I didn't study this but that would seem to indicate in the mind of Aveo Engineering that the are TSO'd by virtue of the fact that they meet the home country standard.
I am not too excited or concerned from my own standpoint. I like my lights and they were never advertised as TSO'd as far as I know. But it will be interesting to see how this evolves.
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06-22-2016, 08:52 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Snohomish, Washington
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Interesting...
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06-22-2016, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Originally Posted by Don Jones
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According to that, Aveo Florida would hold the TSOs ... but Aveo Florida is a distinct company from Aveo Engineering, at least according ot one page of their web site, hence the issue (Assuming Aveo Florida indeed does of course ...).
So Aveo Engineering sells a product, claiming TSO compliance. Maybe they're not entirely wrong, it's just not *their* TSO. I mean when AS sells something that says its TSO compliant, no one presumes AS holds the TSO ... it's the manufacturer.
That being said, in the TSO database, there's no "Aveo Florida" listed.
If you go the Aveo Florida web site, it says its "Aveo Engineering". And if you dig some more, you see there's "Aveo Engeneering USA" and Aveo Engineering America".
So yeah, some funny, odd confusing things going on here ...
Heck, the FAA letter says Aveo Malaysia holds the TSO, but their own database lists Aveo Engineering with a florida address ... but the products in question are not there.
what a mess ...
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06-22-2016, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Victoria, Tx
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I have installed two of AVEO's Ultra Embedded Aurora in my wingtips and one PosiStrobe XP in the tail. I hope that nothing comes to bite me.
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06-22-2016, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 219PB
I have installed two of AVEO's Ultra Embedded Aurora in my wingtips and one PosiStrobe XP in the tail. I hope that nothing comes to bite me.
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None of this makes a statement on the quality of their products, merely questions business practices and legal matters.
Unfortunately, even if one makes the best "thing" in the world does not mean they necessarily have the best business sense ...
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06-22-2016, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRV7
Interesting. I use an Aveo product in my wings. It was already installed when I purchased the plane. Seemed fine until one strobe stopped working. They were very good to me about replacing it out of warranty. The odd thing is that the new strobe was multiple times brighter than the old one in the other wingtip.
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I had the same experience with my non TSO'd AVEO Powerburst lights. When one failed they replaced them both and the new ones are significantly brighter than the old ones. But being experimental I wasn't that concerned.
My 2 cents. 
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06-22-2016, 12:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GalinHdz
I had the same experience with my non TSO'd AVEO Powerburst lights. When one failed they replaced them both and the new ones are significantly brighter than the old ones. But being experimental I wasn't that concerned.
My 2 cents. 
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I was so close to getting the second at the same time but in the end, I Gave up trying to support the brightness claim. I have the Powerbursts too. Nice and quiet.
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