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Old 06-15-2016, 07:49 AM
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What is NORDO?
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:52 AM
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No radio. Communication failure for whatever reason
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:07 AM
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Does it mean No Radio?
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:08 AM
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Ah, thank you. Makes sense now.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:46 AM
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When flight planning please check preferred departures or routes. Some flight planning software will show you flight plans who have filed same route so may give you an indication of what you should be filing to help the system. I might add this whole process is designed to keep aircraft separated in busy environments. I hope this helps, and if you have any questions please ask... I'm a controller at Miami ARTCC so no hate mail plz.....
Thanks for the reply!

I am aware of preferred routes etc. and I do check them when flight planning. In my case, all of the previously flown routes have been direct or the same route that I filed. There are no published SIDs from my departure airport although there are a couple for PIT which is nearby. For whatever reason, my original flight plan, which was relatively direct, got changed to a route that put me all the way down the middle and the on the opposite side of the Pittsburgh Class B from where I was going. Then they essentially gave me direct once I was airborne. Very confusing, as the automated route put me way closer to the departures from PIT that morning than my original plan would have.

When you say that the equipment suffix can be changed based on what the computer knows about my equipment, how can it know what equipment I have other than by looking at my filed equipment suffix?
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:18 AM
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Well its mainly ICAO format, but this is the direction the FAA is moving for Flight plans and planning since there are so many different configurations available now. Some electronic flight plan input systems require you to list what equipment you have. ADSB, RNP 5, RNP 10, RVSM, GPS, RNav, VOR, ILS, Tacan, TCAS 1 and 2, HF, COMSAT, RNV values for approach, departure, and enroute. ILS, MLS, these are just off the top of my head, there are soooo many qualifiers, when we have to change a suffix type we have to click on the computer then the computer, ERAM, decides whether you are qualified for what you file. I know there are 43 different qualifiers, some that the FAA is not using yet and is reserved for future equipment. If you look at ICAO format you will get a better idea what I"m talking about. For instance if you file a /I and are trying to get into RVSM airspace the computer will not allow it and it places a coral box around your mode c altitude indicating you are not qualified. The computer knows what you are flying based on what you file and it compares it to your equipment. It sees your equipment based on your transponder and ADSB. I'm not an expert on this but this is how I understand the system. We see it all the time when Havana sends us flight plans that cross into US airspace and the routes will reject because the airline or company the airlines use to send foreign flight plans does not include all the equipment qualifiers, so we end up playing 20 questions with the pilots which is not good when we are busy. Does that make sense?

just a quick story to help perhaps, airliner going into HAV, I issue opposite direction traffic 1000 below and he says he never saw the traffic or more importantly he never saw the traffic on TCAS. SO I told him to check his tcas and he says it is now inop. He is in RVSM airspace, INOP tcas disqualifies him from using RVSM airspace or makes it harder and the separation requirement now changes from 1000 vertical to 2000. and each controller has to approve non rvsm flight prior to entry or must either be above it or below it. In this instance he was landing havana anyway so he was given fl280. After I clicked Non RVSM in this equipment in his flight plan the coral box appeared and his equipment suffix changed.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:17 AM
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This is all pure gold. Thank you Carl. Love learning more about how the system works.
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Old 06-15-2016, 12:40 PM
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This is all pure gold. Thank you Carl. Love learning more about how the system works.
Agreed.

I find it funny that they let me file a domestic IFR flight plan /I and then run it through some filters designed for an ICAO flight plan and that spits out a blank equipment suffix.

I guess in a few months it won't matter since we'll all have to file ICAO anyway.

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