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06-09-2016, 08:40 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Carefree Arizona
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600EXP version 5.6.0
I see a new software version on the Navworx web site. Tried to download it to my iPad but no luck. Hopefully when available it will include the 1090 in software........
Last edited by Delta Bravo : 06-09-2016 at 08:53 AM.
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06-09-2016, 09:25 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
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Considering ordering the ADS600exp unit. What is the advantage of having 1090 in? Would that allow you to operate in other countries?
thanks
erich
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06-09-2016, 10:02 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erich weaver
Considering ordering the ADS600exp unit. What is the advantage of having 1090 in? Would that allow you to operate in other countries?
thanks
erich
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Other countries and above 18k
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06-09-2016, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rleffler
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In other countries or in class "A" airspace you will need 1090 OUT for compliance not 1090 IN. 1090 IN gives you traffic that has 1090 OUT when you are outside a 978 ground station coverage area. During this time all other traffic will be invisible to your receiver.

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06-09-2016, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rleffler
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Neither. Above FL180 you need ADSB-OUT on 1090 MHz.
Only advantage is you 'see' 1090-out airplanes even if you are not in contact with a ground station. (Otherwise 1090 signals go to ground station which send info to you via UAT frequency).
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06-09-2016, 10:36 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
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Ahhhh...
Didn't realize there was that vulnerability of missing the 1090-only traffic. I guess in the end there is no way to guarantee you are going to have ALL traffic displayed. There could always be a non-ADSB equipped aircraft that is either not in radar coverage or is in an area where I am not in contact with a ground station, although the areas Ive flown in seem pretty well covered.
Right now I am only ADSB-in equipped and Ive come to the conclusion that my traffic display does more harm than good. Very distracting from simply looking out the window and unreliable. Traffic often simply disappears off the screen, I assume because I am no longer within the hockey puck area around someone with ADSB-out that I am mooching off. Do like the weather and being able to get in-flight METARs for destinations though.
erich
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06-09-2016, 10:50 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
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On a 978 IN system you will not miss 1090 traffic while within the service area of a 978 ground station. ADS-B is an aid to traffic detection and never intended to be an all inclusive solution. Eyes out the window is still the best.

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Last edited by GalinHdz : 06-09-2016 at 10:52 AM.
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06-09-2016, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
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Right, got it.
thanks for getting me up to speed.
erich
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06-10-2016, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Fairfax, VT
Posts: 66
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NavWorx ADS600-EXP software version 5.6.0 problem
I was having an issue with my ADS600-EXP in that it would not show 1090ES traffic. The reason was that the box was reporting that it had dual input (978 and 1090) even though the box is only currently 978 IN. So the ADSB ground stations do not send 1090ES to you if they think that you have 1090IN. They assume that you are getting 1090ES directly fro the other aircraft.
Bottom line is you see no 1090ES traffic.
So, reported this to Bill M at Navworx and he said that a new software version would be availablke to fix the problem.
The new software is version 5.6.0 which I downloaded and inatalled.
Fired the ADS600-EXP up today with the new software and it now has a more serious problem.
The GPS no longer works. See's zero satellites
I have sent a couple of notes to BiLL M at Navworx but have not heard back.
I requested the previous software load before the update so I can get the box working again even with the 1090 issue.
If anyone has a copy of the software version prior to 5.6.0 I would appreciate a PM so I could get a copy.
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06-10-2016, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Davenport, IA
Posts: 1,390
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Bill,
Version 5.3.1 iOS app for the iPhone/iPad is still available in the iTunes store. Is still st 5.3.1. Has NOT been revised to include 5.6.
QUESTION..... After loading 5.6 did you ERASE the EEPROM and reconfigure?? Bill told me to do after loading a revision.
Last edited by MartySantic : 06-10-2016 at 09:43 PM.
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