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Old 05-11-2016, 03:05 PM
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I just purchased a 6a kit that had experienced a nose gear failure and subsequent prop strike. The crank dials good, but i'm going to tear the engine down anyway and have the critical internal components magnafluxed and measured just to be sure. I would like to do as much of the teardown and rebuild myself, and wonder if there is a factory service manual or even a video course that someone might recommend to guide me through the process. I built the engine for my last kit (601XL w/Corvair) and am not unfamiliar with engines in general, but need some Lycoming-specific guidance.

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Old 05-11-2016, 03:17 PM
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Jon, welcome to VAF

A couple of frequent visitors here recently completed the Lycoming engine course, hopefully one of them will jump in.

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Old 05-11-2016, 04:01 PM
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Search (either Google or on VAF) for "Lycomign Direct Drive Overhaul Manual" and you'll find numerous links to online versions. They will give you a great deal of the guidance that you need - but I still recommend the on-site guidance of somoene who has done it. These are simple engines, but there are lots of tiny little "gotcha's" that simply aren't documented that can cost you time and money. Besides, building with a buddy has two sets of eyes on the project to spot mistakes, and is more fun!

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Old 05-11-2016, 04:54 PM
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Search (either Google or on VAF) for "Lycomign Direct Drive Overhaul Manual" and you'll find numerous links to online versions. They will give you a great deal of the guidance that you need - but I still recommend the on-site guidance of somoene who has done it. These are simple engines, but there are lots of tiny little "gotcha's" that simply aren't documented that can cost you time and money. Besides, building with a buddy has two sets of eyes on the project to spot mistakes, and is more fun!

Paul
What Paul said.

Since you have never done this before, you may want to also look at the Superior Overhaul manual. Superior makes PMA parts for Lycoming engines and also their own certificated Vantage engine. (Looks like a Lycoming clone only certificated.)

The hidden gotchas like splitting the case and removing the connecting rod nuts from the crankshaft can be difficult for someone that has not done it before. There is also a hidden nut on a stud or bolt and nut (depending on when the engine was manufactured) under the accessory case that holds the crankcase together. If you have very good mechanical skills and never force anything apart on your Lycoming engine, you will be able to get it apart.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:13 PM
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Thanks. I found the Superior manual and wondered, since it was a clone, how accurate it would be. I would love to be able to take the factory course, but likely won't be able to take the time which is why I was hoping the same content might have been provided as a video course or something.
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:07 PM
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The basic information you need for disassembly and reassembly is readily available, the problem is getting current service bulletins, service instructions, part numbers etc., i.e. knowing what you don't know.
Most of this is out there on the inter web but knowing you have the latest and most current information is the challenge. Be sure to get a copy of the mandatory replacement parts list, some of the parts like rod bolts you don't want to use over.
If you have a friendly A&P on your field maybe fund his favorite vice for a little help getting the info. I have also had good luck just calling Lycoming and ask for a specific document I needed.
If you have a wide deck engine (A is the last digit in the S/n), you shouldn't need a case splitter. You should have very good mechanical skills and/or get someone who has done a few of these to help with assembly. They are not complicated, but there are some places to get in trouble.
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Old 05-27-2016, 02:11 PM
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Good news! I talked with a guy named Tom at Aero-engines of Winchester and have plans to send my parts out for inspection then build it in their shop with someone looking over my shoulder. Look forward to reporting more as this works itself out.
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:16 PM
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I am currently doing the exact same thing, but prior to making this decision I arrived at an arrangement with a nearby shop owned by a friend. I assisted him in reassembling an engine a few years ago, but I've never experienced this early phase of a complete overhaul.

The last few days have been spent poring over the ADs and SBs trying to organize that information into something manageable.

I have a narrow deck, so I am dreading the case splitting a little bit. Anyone know what year they stopped using the anchored through bolts?
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:23 AM
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This page has a good how-to. I found it very helpful
http://www.meyette.us/SuperiorTextPics.htm
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:22 AM
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This page has a good how-to. I found it very helpful
http://www.meyette.us/SuperiorTextPics.htm
I think that procedure without the engine stand until after the cases are closed might be an easier way to do it. Gets kind of frantic with two sets of hands trying to hold things in place, bearings etc. standing up.

PS: while looking for the long list of web sites and documents I collected while doing my overhaul I found a link to SBs called prime-mover.org has been hijacked by ransomware - avoid it. Now I have to clean my computer......
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