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Old 05-10-2016, 02:59 PM
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The main reason I forked over the $150 for FF is the CFS subscription......which I use about as much as the paper version....ah, almost NEVER!

I have FPG on my Nexus7, but can't recall how FltplanGO handles the CFS....I have trouble finding it in ForeFlight,...but that's hardly surprising...can't find my toothbrush most mornings either!
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:01 PM
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I have FF VFR for Canada and FPG. I have use FPG for my flights to the USA and I am not planning to renew FF for Canada as FPG does a good job and their free service version is equivalent to FF Pro.

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Old 05-10-2016, 06:57 PM
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My thinking almost exactly. Foreflight requires Ipad as it won't run on Android if I remember correctly. If something else works better and cheaper I'm interested. I'm not married to Apple products.
I'd highly recommend finding the last Nexus7 model (2013 edition) with 32GB storage (WiFi model is fine), used off of Craigslist. It will cost you about $150CDN. It'll run FltPlanGo brilliantly and let you decide whether it's good enough for your needs.

That's less cash than a one year, Canada-only subscription for ForeFlight, and if you decide you don't like it, you can sell the tablet again and recoup most of that.

FltPlanGo has most of the capability of ForeFlight now, but it isn't as user-friendly. I feel that for the cost (free) I can live with the UI, and as a plus I don't have to deal with Apple.
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:00 PM
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The main reason I forked over the $150 for FF is the CFS subscription......which I use about as much as the paper version....ah, almost NEVER!

I have FPG on my Nexus7, but can't recall how FltplanGO handles the CFS....I have trouble finding it in ForeFlight,...but that's hardly surprising...can't find my toothbrush most mornings either!
FltPlanGo has the full CFS as well, all for the same low price (free). You have to download it through the "downloads" screen, after that you can call up individual airport CFS pages from the airport info page in FPG.

Note that procedures are stored separately, and have to be downloaded as a "binder" on the Binders tab. This is much less intuitive than FF, if I recall, but has worked for me when needed.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:03 PM
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Just used FPG tonight on my Nexus 6 phone. I have a first-gen Nexus 7 running FPG as well, but the phone is so handy because I always have it with me, so the N7 stays at home.

Using the CFS airport diagram on FPG was a piece of cake, and, unlike the paper CFS, one can ZOOM in and see the info one wants. Yeah, getting older really sucks when it comes to diminishing performance of the eyeballs... ;-)
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:31 AM
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I have had fltlan Go on the iPad 1 for almost 5 years now as an alternate to ForeFlight. Never really liked FPG then as it crashed and was somewhat difficult to use.

Bought the iPad mini 2 years ago and when my FF subscription expired during our annual inspection I delayed the renewal and tried FFG again. What a difference a couple of years make. Very stable and all the information I needed for VFR/IFR in both Canada and US. Had used the iPad 1 as a backup unit, but in the last few years Apple has orphaned this unit preventing iOS upgrades and app developers from providing updates. I have replaced the backup iPad 1 unit with a 2nd hand Nexus 7 2013 unit and am extremely pleased.

The user interface is not as slick as FF, however it has improved tremendously over the years and works just great. Technical support is also very quick, and all for $ 0.00. Oh, also works with Stratux wx and traffic, and available on both iOS and Android. What more could you ask for. Give it a try.

I have not gone back to FF and don't really miss it. The extra savings from using FPG go towards fuel (about $350 per year).

What was the question? Oh, CFS! I used to get the paper version delivered, and that cost $150 per year. Now I have it with me all the time and updated. When you go to airports on the app, you can open the CFS page for that airport just like FF, but you cannot browse. You can download sections of it into your binders section just like FF. I wish there was a better way to navigate the CFS, but so far it works. Airport Flight Directories are there as well for our USA flights.

Also, someone mentioned not using the CFS. If you travel to unfamiliar airports, you might want to know the ARCAL frequency (not always the unicom frequency) and the pattern used (altitude and direction). Both FF and FPG don't seem to provide the direction of pattern (circuit) in the airport summary.
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:33 PM
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"When you go to airports on the app, you can open the CFS page for that airport just like FF, but you cannot browse. You can download sections of it into your binders section just like FF."

Alfio - when you've got a minute to spare, would you mind expanding on this comment, please? I "think" you're indicating that we can't browse through the CFS pages as though it were a PDF or similar document - is this correct?

For me, a true low-tech user, the biggest complaint I have with respect to using the CFS pages is in not being able to quickly and easily access the forward and afterward material that's so handy and easy to find in the paper version.

Last night was an interesting flight as I was using the Garmin 396 as my primary navigation device and FPG on the Nexus 6 as my "information getting" tool. I'm now thinking I need to have at least this level of info available in the cockpit. Wow, are we spoiled by not having to lug around tons of paper!
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:33 PM
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I downloaded it recently and will give it a try. Thanks for recommendation Alfio. I do have all FF bells and whistles till December but it costs a lot of gas. If I can "write" my rather complex routes on Fltplan Go I keep it


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Old 05-11-2016, 07:08 PM
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Alfio - when you've got a minute to spare, would you mind expanding on this comment, please? I "think" you're indicating that we can't browse through the CFS pages as though it were a PDF or similar document - is this correct?
Not sure I understand your question, given that you are already using FPG. My issues is that, for instance, CYOW airport information ---> CFS. I only get the airport information for CYOW, while in the paper CFS I also have the VFR corridors, reporting points and other information available. If I could browse beyond what they provide under information for airports, that would really make my day. I have not found it in the CFS download items either. I had the same issue with FF... maybe it's my mindset that needs adjusting

I don't know where to get that information. There may be a way of doing this... I guess I should follow my own advice and contact support


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If I can "write" my rather complex routes on Fltplan Go I keep it
My guess is it should work. On the iPad, you can also rubber-band your routes. Contact their support if you have questions, as they are very responsive. Interested to hear back how it works for you.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:25 AM
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OK, now I understand what you're highlighting, Alfio. Yes, I haven't been able to find that "other" info, either. I don't have a current AIR5000 and Ottawa VTA chart to see how much VTA info is actually visible on the chart shown in FPG. Perhaps that's the only way we'll see the VFR corridor, reporting points etc. Still, there's no way that I know of to see the info just as it is presented in the CFS. Time for a question to the support folks at FPG!
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