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Old 05-06-2016, 02:56 PM
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:06 PM
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Nice choice of stuffs there.

Might consider moving the G5 to the right for easier right-seat flying and then you can move the center stuff up.

If you're holding the right side of the panel for a future G3 displays I'd shift everything to the right and put the G5 on the left to serve it's backup role.

Your as designed panel looks fun to fly behind.
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:46 PM
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Nice choice of stuffs there.

Might consider moving the G5 to the right for easier right-seat flying and then you can move the center stuff up.
Disagree, assuming you're building for ifr. To be useful as a backup you need that G5 within your normal scan. Keep it close.
Which brings up the question: if your two AI's disagree, which will you believe?
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Old 05-06-2016, 04:29 PM
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Disagree, assuming you're building for ifr. To be useful as a backup you need that G5 within your normal scan. Keep it close.
Which brings up the question: if your two AI's disagree, which will you believe?
This is easily solved by adding a second AHRS to the G3X Touch system. The two can cross reference each other and the G5 can be the tie breaker.
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Do you mean to have the controls: throttle, mixture, prop instead of the more typical throttle, prop, mixture?
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Old 05-06-2016, 05:40 PM
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One thing I don't see but would highly recommend would be the Autopilot controller (GMC 305/307). Even if you don't purchase it now leave some room in the radio stack to install it later. If you fly IFR as it looks like you are planning then you will really want that controller. Switching the G3X to AP control mode is not easy when you are trying to do/see 5 other things at the same time.

You do need the backup G5 close for a comfortable scan but you might consider moving it to the left side of the panel and move the G3X to the right a bit.

Also consider where you will have your tablet with your approach plates on it?

You and I have similar panels so here is a picture of how mine ended up. The only thing I would change if I were to redo it would be to use the G5 and move my EICommander to a more visible spot.

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Make sure you take into account the required mounting hardware that is required behind the panel when you figure out the spacing. For example the G3x has a frame that holds the plate nuts that mount the display. Also there are angle pieces for the radio stack. Support ribs may need to be trimmed depending on equipment placement too.
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* You don't have to use the G3X frame, you can use little angular nutplates;
* Double check the lateral placement so that the PFD is in front of you;
* Second the opinion about leaving room for the autopilot controller, the one with the knobs;
* 3-D audio is really cool. Don't know if that audio panel has it or not, but PS makes a really fine product;
* Consider making your panel modular, so that you can change it incrementally;
* Double check on transitioning from the 625 to the SL30 for an ILS vs doing it all on a 650. (I haven't got it all figured out on the 650, BTW). Your quest for failure tolerance may have usability consequences (I don't know);
* Spacing between the switches and such is excellent -- so many folks fail to do that;
* Maybe move the ignition switch up so that anything attached to the key won't interfere;
* Consider putting the G5 at the far left so you have room for the autopilot controller, and so that your (future) G3X screen will be closer to you. My plane has too much space between the G3X screens;
* Put in service loops long enough that you can access the center stack connectors without removing the mounting trays;
* Get some G3X time before you do your first flight if you possibly can. You'll be plenty busy with just the new airplane, and adding unfamiliar avionics could jeopardize your tolerable workload.

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Do I see 2 Flaps switches? One at position 8 from the left and one on the far right?
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:37 PM
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Do I see 2 Flaps switches? One at position 8 from the left and one on the far right?
The left most looks like a 5a CB to me.
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