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05-04-2016, 11:51 AM
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A fundamental rule when writing "government-ese" is to spell out the acronym in parenthesis on first use. It is absolutely necessary when pulling a quotation from another source.
Thus,
PNC ( Primary Non-Commercial) according to the above quoted Mac McClellan article, "Could your airplane be a PNC?" March 25, 2014.
After first use, the author can "PNC" all day long.
A quick check of the acronym dictionary reveals 170 meanings of the acronym "PNC."
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05-04-2016, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rv7boy
A fundamental rule when writing "government-ese" is to spell out the acronym in parenthesis on first use. It is absolutely necessary when pulling a quotation from another source.
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I stand corrected. Dumb to say, but I forgot where I was. In factory-built plane forums the PNC proposal has been talked about for years and the term is generally known.
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05-04-2016, 07:32 PM
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thanks for all the great feedback guys (and gals). I'm really looking forward to going up in a couple RVs and seeing how they do. From what I have read... it will be a real change from the tame performance of my Cherokee. Even still... my Cherokee has been a great plane for the wife and I. I enjoyed every hour of the training to get my PPL and now wife and I enjoy just jumping in the plane and cruising somewhere. The only weakness of the Cherokee is the speed. Hard to do longer trips at 100-110mph. I regularly fly fort worth to Lubbock on business and it sure would be nice if I could go a bit faster 
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05-04-2016, 08:13 PM
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The other aspect of this question is whether or not you are comfortable with an experimental amateur built airplane? Their build quality ranges from awesome to hideous and their systems design, control layout, engine installation differ like snowflakes. No two are the same. Are you technically knowledgable enough to recognize a lemon? Are you will to get to know the technical details of your airplane? There likely won't be an aircraft flight manual that explains every detail. You will have to get to know your machine and all of its avionics and systems on your own. For many of us that's half the fun. Other people don't want anything to do with that. They want to turn the key and have it work.
So you need to consider if you are a suitable candidate for an experimental airplane. They are not the right machine for everyone, but if you fit the mold there is nothing better.
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05-04-2016, 08:24 PM
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I am hoping i will be fine with it... my other hobby is restoring old cars so I at least I have a basic understanding of motors, sheetmetal, etc. I realize it isn't the exact same but might hopefully at least give me a little help.
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05-04-2016, 10:12 PM
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Cherokees and RVs
Oldrockfan, not much to add to the discussion, but I am also a Cherokee owner and am on Cherokee Chat along with you. A while back I posted there that I was also building an RV-9a. Not sure if your plan would be to buy or build, but I can tell you that this group is an invaluable resource for both options. I have never attempted a project of this size before, but after a year or so, the most valuable thing I've learned is that this forum is a great place for info and support.
Good luck with whatever you decide. And in the meantime enjoy the Cherokee. I sure enjoy mine.
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05-04-2016, 11:31 PM
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I owned a Cherokee 140 for about 10 years. It was my first plane. I helped friends build several RVs along the way, got my tailwheel endorsement, and was allowed to fly the RV-4 and RV-8 I helped with the builds quite a bit. I loved my Cherokee, but those 8 hour long flights from WFalls to Oshkosh in the Cherokee versus 5 hour flights there in the RV-8 sealed the deal....I had to get myself an RV of my own. So the Cherokee was sold and when this RV-6 that another friend of mine built was offered for sale, I secured financing and bought it. I do miss the comfortable front seat roominess of the Cherokee sometimes, and also the way it made child's play out of gusty crosswind landings, but I sure don't miss the low max cruise speed it had.  I also don't miss being hog-tied to the obtuse regulatory constraints of maintaining a certificated airplane either.
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05-05-2016, 03:31 AM
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If buying get a prebuy
Hi Matt,
Sounds like you are down near the center of VAF country. Make sure you get some help with a prebuy inspection if you choose to go that route. I have a friend here who is an IA that built his own Rv7a. He did my prebuy, and was invaluable. I passed up one plane before I wound up with the 6a I have. I honestly did not know all the things to look for, he did. Worth every penny I paid. I also made a really good new friend. Good luck in choosing what to do, and in flying an RV!
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05-05-2016, 06:01 PM
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I just did that same thing. I went from an 800-ish our PA-28 pilot to an RV-10. I found that the -10 is easier to fly and land than a PA-28 ! The stick and the horsepower were not at all hard to get used to. Especially the stick...which felt natural in about 30 seconds and was never thought about again. The avionics, going from steam to glass, that was a different story...but the internet and youtube are your friend there....soak up as much as you can...
Overall...a VERY easy plane to fly. Hard to stall. Docile in power on or power off stalls. Quick and smooth...a real pleasure to fly. Again...find it easier to fly and land than my PA-28-180...so go for it.
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05-05-2016, 06:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldrockfan
I am hoping i will be fine with it... my other hobby is restoring old cars so I at least I have a basic understanding of motors, sheetmetal, etc. I realize it isn't the exact same but might hopefully at least give me a little help.
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Did I understand up the thread that you are in the North Texas area?
DFW?
Then you can't go wrong with Walt Aronow at EXP Aircraft up at 52F (Northwest Regional) taking a look at any candidates for you.
I learned a TON from him doing the pre-buy's on two aircraft that were rejected that gave me the confidence I needed to find one that passed muster and that I bought.
(It must have been a good one, as I just took it into Walt's for it's first "new-to-me" annual and while there were some minor squawks, it got a thumbs up as a good, solid build!)
Took me about a year of searching to snag mine....so you'd better get things rolling!
PM me if you want any add'l info.
Fly Safe,
Rob
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