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Old 04-19-2016, 02:09 PM
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Default Fatal Accident in Maryland

Sad news, guys. A rented RV-12 had an accident at Bay Bridge Airport today.
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/small-pla...rport/39106106
Details unknown, cause undetermined. FAA and NTSB are investigating.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:13 PM
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http://www.thekathrynreport.com/2016...lot-fatal.html
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:39 AM
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Default RV 12 Sad Day

Our prayers go out to the families of all involved

This is a sad day for all of us

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Old 04-20-2016, 08:14 PM
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Our thoughts and prayers are with the families in this difficult time. I hope the investigation will identify the cause so we can all learn from this tragic event.
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:36 AM
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I know it’s inappropriate to comment on this but the news article mentioned the registration number involved in the accident N276VA and that the aircraft was used for revenue flight instruction.

I looked up the aircraft on the federal registry and it appears to be a very early SN 120056 and yet it received its airworthiness certificate just recently – 6/15. I can’t find if it is registered ELSA or EAB. Being that it is a very early SN and apparently under construction for a long period I doubt it would be registered SLSA.

If I’m reading the regulations correctly the aircraft must be registered SLSA in order to be used for revenue flight instruction.

This whole thing struck me because my 12 is SN 120058, just a few #'s later than the accident aircraft. Just makes a person think...

My sincere condolences to the families involved. I await the preliminary report from the NTSB regarding this accident.
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:53 AM
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The aircraft was an S-LSA.
The S-LSA's use a different serial number sequence than the E-LSA's (there is matching numbers of both types)
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:58 AM
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If I?m reading the regulations correctly the aircraft must be registered SLSA in order to be used for revenue flight instruction.
This is incorrect. Please take this discussion to another thread.
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:20 AM
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http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/0...t-plane-crash/

The pilot and passenger were identified a couple of days ago and it seems that the pilot was fairly experienced being an employee of the flight school (although its not clear about his time in the -12 per se) This incident is just so disturbing on so many levels. Whether it was mechanical or pilot error or both I won't even speculate about until we learn more.

Just this past weekend I was flying young eagles only an hour away from where this crash occurred and on my "Young Eagles" checklist I spend a fair amount of time on the ground discussing safety with the "Eagle" and his/her parents as I would want a pilot taking up my kid to do the same thing. We go over where the fire extinguisher is located, first aid kit, even how to open and get out of the aircraft if I was unable to do that for them... I usually preface that discussion about how unlikely all that detailed info will be needed, but that "I feel better sharing with them". Its easy to become safety complacent with the RV-12 as it is such an easy plane to fly and land compared to many other aircraft with higher stall speeds in the pattern. Sadly, it takes incidents like this to get your attention that even with a safety mindset, what we do is serious business.

The only positive that will hopefully come out of this tragedy are learnings about how to prevent it from happening ever again. We'll have to wait for the NTSB to help us with that.
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:25 AM
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This is incorrect. Please take this discussion to another thread.
Why?? This is an RV-12 model specific forum and the subject is a fatal RV-12 accident in Maryland. I think that keeping all of the discussion about this accident in one thread is important to all of us RV-12 guys.
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:46 AM
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http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/0...t-plane-crash/

The pilot and passenger were identified a couple of days ago and it seems that the pilot was fairly experienced being an employee of the flight school (although its not clear about his time in the -12 per se) This incident is just so disturbing on so many levels. Whether it was mechanical or pilot error or both I won't even speculate about until we learn more.

Just this past weekend I was flying young eagles only an hour away from where this crash occurred and on my "Young Eagles" checklist I spend a fair amount of time on the ground discussing safety with the "Eagle" and his/her parents as I would want a pilot taking up my kid to do the same thing. We go over where the fire extinguisher is located, first aid kit, even how to open and get out of the aircraft if I was unable to do that for them... I usually preface that discussion about how unlikely all that detailed info will be needed, but that "I feel better sharing with them". Its easy to become safety complacent with the RV-12 as it is such an easy plane to fly and land compared to many other aircraft with higher stall speeds in the pattern. Sadly, it takes incidents like this to get your attention that even with a safety mindset, what we do is serious business.

The only positive that will hopefully come out of this tragedy are learnings about how to prevent it from happening ever again. We'll have to wait for the NTSB to help us with that.

If you read the Chesapeake Sport Pilot FB page you'll see how their school encouraged youngsters to learn about planes and aviation. There are some photos of N276VA being looked at by young folks and Scouts.
I believe the CSP school has done stalwart work in promoting aviation and sport flying in particular and I think the whole school organization should be applauded. Indeed they have been operating a couple of RV-12 SLSAs in their training fleet for a little while now and I understand they're very popular.

All of which makes this incident a little sadder to contemplate, especially for me as I own SLSA 12038 not too many numbers away from the accident airplane.

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