What type fire extinguisher in cockpit

[gnuse]

There is an exception that allows Halon in aircraft according to ACS and the mfg. of my halon extinguisher.

[lr172]

Originally Posted by N15JB

1+ what Cpt Avgas said. Aviation Consumer just reviewed fire extinguishers in the June issue. The executive summary is the following:

Halon or Halotron (a halon substitute) are the best choices.

Halotron weighs twice what halon weighs.

The number in front of the rating i.e. 2B:C or 5B:C indicates in square feet, how big a fire the extinguisher should put down.

Their testing indicated that the 2B:C was inadequate for even small aircraft.

They recommend a 5B:C unit

I found a quality name brand 5B halotron unit on ebay for $100. It had a nice aluminum valve/handle. It weighs 6lb's but I'm willing to sacrifice the weight for the added protection.

Larry

[Walt]

This is the Halon I carry:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...ickkey=3017477

[tgmillso]

Hi Guys,

For years I sold 3M Novec 1230 fire suppression systems in wind turbines. It is a non toxic liquid that we hold in highly pressurized tanks, that is released through valve activation via the fire monitoring system, or by simply burning through a pressurized line in any electrical cabinet. It has no ozone depleting properties (unlike Halon) and doesn't affect electrical components. In know they make tanks for racecars, however I'm yet to find a hand held extinguisher suitable for aircraft. My grandfather died of skin cancer, and down here in Tasmania the sun is brutal because of the lack of ozone layer, so I avoid the use of Halon where possible.
I'll take a look into sourcing extinguishers and let you guys know.
Tom.

[TX7A]

Originally Posted by Walt

This is the Halon I carry:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...ickkey=3017477

Walt
I have one of those as well but haven't decided where to mount it. Thought about on the flap motor brace between seats but seems my elbows might bump it. Where did you mount yours?

Thanks
Sam

[Walt]

Originally Posted by TX7A

Walt
I have one of those as well but haven't decided where to mount it. Thought about on the flap motor brace between seats but seems my elbows might bump it. Where did you mount yours?

Thanks
Sam

That's exactly where I put mine, no problem with elbows for me.

[gnuse]

I guess I starting flying in the GPS age. I also started racing cars in the Halon age.. early 70's. It was a dangerous era, one that showed that the early forms of Halon we carried on-board were possibly fatal. Not sure that was what we wanted to accomplish. The systems grew in sophistication and later my Formula 1 McLaren, as all cars of the time, even had a small remote oxygen tank for breathing if fire took over the cockpit. It also had various infrared sensors for the Halon system. I guess I could thank Niki Lauda and others for making the needs apparent. I shudder when I recall some of the early race cars I drove, Lotus Formula 1 of the early 60's in which I had racing gas on both sides, over the legs, and under the seat.

If one chose to be serious about fire suppression on-board, there are some nice systems, remotely mounted available these days.

[kverges]

Originally Posted by gnuse

I guess I starting flying in the GPS age. I also started racing cars in the Halon age.. early 70's. It was a dangerous era, one that showed that the early forms of Halon we carried on-board were possibly fatal. Not sure that was what we wanted to accomplish. The systems grew in sophistication and later my Formula 1 McLaren, as all cars of the time, even had a small remote oxygen tank for breathing if fire took over the cockpit. It also had various infrared sensors for the Halon system. I guess I could thank Niki Lauda and others for making the needs apparent. I shudder when I recall some of the early race cars I drove, Lotus Formula 1 of the early 60's in which I had racing gas on both sides, over the legs, and under the seat.

If one chose to be serious about fire suppression on-board, there are some nice systems, remotely mounted available these days.

OK, I can't help but inquire, as it seems to be racing cars and flying airplanes have a lot of common participants. I had an '82 March Vintage Indy Car, but have always loved the McLaren Can Am, F5000 and F1 cars. Did you drive in F1? That's a small club indeed. I primarily club race in slower cars, but big fields. Totally different discipline in terms of risk acceptance but the love of speed and machine is part of the joy of both.

[wirejock]

When I ran data centers we were not allowed by government to install Halon. The gaseous suppression was FM-200. 500 gallon tank with a 20 second dump. Never saw it go off thank goodness. Also had a "dead man" switch. If you thought the problem would clear, you held the dead man. If you succumb, your hand falls off and the system dumps.
Found this one on line.


Also, I drove hobby racing for years. Lots of fun.

[flightlogic]

I over primed a Cessna once and started a fire. I sprayed the HALON on the fire and it INSTANTLY stopped. It was amazing. I do care about the ozone... but I care about living more. Been through an inflight fire at altitude once also. A smoke hood and a good Halon served me well. Fly safe out there.