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04-19-2016, 10:37 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
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Any reason not to use a household detector?
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04-19-2016, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by kverges
Any reason not to use a household detector?
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Response time and threshold come to mind, are they similar?
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
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N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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04-19-2016, 03:30 PM
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Dynon interface?
I'm still building, but I have a complete Dynon Skyview package. Is there a CO detector that will interface with a SkyView?
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04-19-2016, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by AAflyer
I'm still building, but I have a complete Dynon Skyview package. Is there a CO detector that will interface with a SkyView?
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Not yet, as far as giving an CO PPM concentration on the screen. Any of the devices that give an alarm can be wired into one of the Dynon external contact inputs though, and it can trigger a warning on the screen for you that you configure the label for. It's just an on/off type of input.
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid 
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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04-19-2016, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sydney Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kverges
Any reason not to use a household detector?
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I would also like to know the answer to that question. I have my eye on a household CO detector with a form factor that would neatly replace the Quantum eye currently on my panel. And I can buy it for under $50. The manufacturer recommends it for boats and motor homes, so why not aircraft?
To quote the product spec:
Alarm levels as defined by European Norm EN50291-2010*
The table below shows the response times at which your CO alarm will sound:
Parts per Million (PPM) of CO Time until Alarm
50 60 ? 90 minutes
100 10 ? 40 minutes
300 Must alarm in less than 3 minutes
I like that it doesn't alarm until it should and would be grateful for any insights to why this household CO detector would be inferior to the Quantum Eye and/or why it shouldnt be used in aircraft.
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04-19-2016, 11:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
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I have one of these on the instrument panel:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/asaCO.php
$4.50 a pop. If I were using the heater more, I might go with something more sophisticated.
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RV-9A "slider"
Flew to Osh in 2017, 2018 & 2019! 
Tail number N427DK
Donation made for 2020
You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky -- Amelia Earhart
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04-20-2016, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: US
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Originally Posted by rightrudder
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No offense intended, but...really? I wouldn't trust one of these to save my life if you paid me.
Seriously...watch the video above, and then get a *real* CO detector. E.g., something like this:
http://www.pksafety.com/bw-clip-3-ye...etector-m.html
At $140, it's *cheaper* than the little plastic toy that is supposed to be changed every month, actually works, has audio and visual alarms and can even be taken out of the plane and taken with you into hotel rooms (check out the deaths and poisonings due to CO in hotel rooms).
CO poisoning is nothing to mess around with...if you're lucky, it can just make you permanently seriously brain-damaged.
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04-20-2016, 12:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malndi
I would also like to know the answer to that question. I have my eye on a household CO detector with a form factor that would neatly replace the Quantum eye currently on my panel. And I can buy it for under $50. The manufacturer recommends it for boats and motor homes, so why not aircraft?
To quote the product spec:
Alarm levels as defined by European Norm EN50291-2010*
The table below shows the response times at which your CO alarm will sound:
Parts per Million (PPM) of CO Time until Alarm
50 60 ? 90 minutes
100 10 ? 40 minutes
300 Must alarm in less than 3 minutes
I like that it doesn't alarm until it should and would be grateful for any insights to why this household CO detector would be inferior to the Quantum Eye and/or why it shouldnt be used in aircraft.
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My experience is anecdotal, but I keep a CO detector in my garage shop (it's pretty big with 4 doors and 50'x50' dimensions) and it routinely alarms quickly if I don't make sure to open the door nearest the running car and another door on other end of garage to get cross flow. I've never felt any ill effect even when it goes off, although I make sure to open all doors and get out. As drafty as my RV is I think I'd be comfortable with this kind of response.
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04-20-2016, 01:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer
No offense intended, but...really? I wouldn't trust one of these to save my life if you paid me.
Seriously...watch the video above, and then get a *real* CO detector. E.g., something like this:
http://www.pksafety.com/bw-clip-3-ye...etector-m.html
At $140, it's *cheaper* than the little plastic toy that is supposed to be changed every month, actually works, has audio and visual alarms and can even be taken out of the plane and taken with you into hotel rooms (check out the deaths and poisonings due to CO in hotel rooms).
CO poisoning is nothing to mess around with...if you're lucky, it can just make you permanently seriously brain-damaged.
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Do what you want, but I'm comfortable with this solution.
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Doug
RV-9A "slider"
Flew to Osh in 2017, 2018 & 2019! 
Tail number N427DK
Donation made for 2020
You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky -- Amelia Earhart
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