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04-17-2016, 03:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Prescott, AZ
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RV loose in the wind
We had some remarkable winds at the surface today and I made a tactical error. I chalked the mains and did not tie the plane down while out flying a heavier bird. The RV 9A was sitting in front of the hangar.
When I returned to the hangar in the C210, our little RV was turning lazy circles in front of the hangar. Does anyone know if most nosewheel RV's will **** the nosewheel when pushed by the wind. We don't know how many turns the plane had done while un-attended. The Antisplat gust lock shook itself loose also, leaving the rudder flapping around. I consider the whole event a lucky learning experience... since a steel pipe rail fence was nearby. I sure expected dents and dings when I saw it out of control. Killing the power to the Cessna and running for the loose kitplane was a sick feeling.
Live and learn I suppose. (I did not lose my composure... and I am practicing spelling loose and lose here today... pilots just cannot get that word right I notice.) Cheers....
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04-17-2016, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Lawton, OK
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Loose in the wind
Loose and lose, like chock and chalk.
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04-17-2016, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
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Can you be more specific about the failure mode of the Antisplat gust lock? Was it related to not being tied down, or should this be a general concern?
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04-17-2016, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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At least the plane was not damaged.
You apparently don't need advice before you advise others, either.
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and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
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04-17-2016, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Nags Head NC.
Posts: 206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flightlogic
We had some remarkable winds at the surface today and I made a tactical error. I chalked the mains and did not tie the plane down while out flying a heavier bird. The RV 9A was sitting in front of the hangar.
When I returned to the hangar in the C210, our little RV was turning lazy circles in front of the hangar. Does anyone know if most nosewheel RV's will **** the nosewheel when pushed by the wind. We don't know how many turns the plane had done while un-attended. The Antisplat gust lock shook itself loose also, leaving the rudder flapping around. I consider the whole event a lucky learning experience... since a steel pipe rail fence was nearby. I sure expected dents and dings when I saw it out of control. Killing the power to the Cessna and running for the loose kitplane was a sick feeling.
Live and learn I suppose. (I did not lose my composure... and I am practicing spelling loose and lose here today... pilots just cannot get that word right I notice.) Cheers....
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Have had a problem with the gust lock also. It's seems to work its way loose at times. I don't really trust it in the kind of winds we get in my area.
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04-17-2016, 05:49 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Prescott, AZ
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It was a confession.... not much confusion on that point.
On the subject of gust locks... I have noticed, of late... that my gust lock has taken a bit of a permanent bend. It does not push into place a tightly as when new. Been thinking of asking Alan if a new arm could be installed and keep the rest of the parts. The bend starts near where the holes are drilled through...
If I learn more, I will add it to the history thread for Antisplat gust locks.
Cheers... or cheerios.
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04-17-2016, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Snoqualmie, wa
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My gust lock bent a little as well. I noticed the bend when I removed it as I was preflighting my departure from Oshkosh last year (arm wouldn't slide in like it used to). I took a picture planning on sending it to Alan but I haven't taken the time to send it yet. I adjusted it a bit to keep things good and tight and it is still doing a great job. It survived the nasty Saturday morning storm we had at Oshkosh last year so I'm very happy with it. :-)

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04-17-2016, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Prescott, AZ
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That is about the same place my bend is starting. If Alan made a little retrofit kit with a piece of aluminum tubing (close tolerance) that could be driven down the original tube, it would be much stronger.
I might call him this week. He seems to always like a challenge.
BTW.... one of the vendors here sells some stainless steel threaded inserts to attach the tie down ropes. I have them on the plane... and still had a brain fart today and left it untied in the breeze. My wife should smack me...
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04-17-2016, 09:21 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flightlogic
If Alan made a little retrofit kit with a piece of aluminum tubing (close tolerance) that could be driven down the original tube, it would be much stronger. I might call him this week.
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Alan has known there were problems with the aluminum tube for quite some time. Mine broke in July of 2013 while the plane sat on the ramp at Maxwell for 2 weeks. IIRC, he told me the aluminum tube was selected for being a convenient size (the ID matches the OD of the steel tube). I ended up invoking his satisfaction guarantee and returning mine despite his insistence on troubleshooting(beta testing). I do not believe this product is durable enough for long-term use.

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RV-9A - N643AC (built,flying,sold,missed)
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04-18-2016, 05:54 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: McAlpin, FL
Posts: 253
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Gust lock on the tail
I drilled a hole in the rudder horn and rudder stop, then inserted an AN3 bolt that was bent to fit. Used a torch to heat before bending the bolt. Worked great, and weighs practically nothing!
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McAlpin, FL
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Scratchbuilt Biplane
Preceptor N3 - Sold
Zenith Zodiac 601HD - Sold (good riddance)
Kitfox IV - Sold my share, but loved that plane
RV8A Sold! Loved the plane, but not the nosewheel!
RVX (RV6/4) Sold
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