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03-29-2016, 02:59 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Liberty, MO
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Yes, there are ways
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03-29-2016, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Originally Posted by Brantel
In reality who is safer to act as PIC? Someone who sees a cardiologist twice a year, routinely completes proactive diagnostic testing and understands their heart health like the back of their hand or the guy that won't go to the doctor for fear of losing their medical (or they lie on their application)?
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Absolutely right. And that's a much better point to use in combatting the 3rd class medical. Pilots suffering everything from impotence to lupus are refusing to see a doctor for fear of losing a certificate.
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03-29-2016, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
Posts: 2,247
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Originally Posted by StuBob
Absolutely right. And that's a much better point to use in combatting the 3rd class medical. Pilots suffering everything from impotence to lupus are refusing to see a doctor for fear of losing a certificate.
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Very, very true.
My cardiologist tells me I have a much lower risk now (with no chance of ever seeing an FAA medical certificate with my name on it again) than I was on the day my last one was issued, when apparently I was a ticking time bomb just waiting for the MI to happen.
Go figure.
Hang in there, Brian. As a bonus, even if it takes a while to get the SI - if the current PBOR2 provisions should ever pass, as unlikely as it may seem some days, YOU should be fine if you're able to get the SI one last time. Think if it as your "golden ticket". And at least your conversation with Doc Bruce was better than mine, that's a good sign. "It can't be pushed through any faster" is better than "Sorry, you're hosed".
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03-29-2016, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Posts: 5,297
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Originally Posted by StuBob
Absolutely right. And that's a much better point to use in combatting the 3rd class medical. Pilots suffering everything from impotence to lupus are refusing to see a doctor for fear of losing a certificate.
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This is, I believe, the key argument for third class Medical reform. The drafted legislation proposal requires bi-annual medical checkups with your family doctor. I don't know about others, but my GP provides a MUCH more comprehensive physical than my AME with a far higher probability of finding real issues with my health. This legislation forces pilots to address real issues, while allowing us to fly with non-issues. Any argument can easily be made that more life-threatening issues will be found and dealt with under this program.
We need to help the general public understand that the current Medical Review process organically uncovers almost nothing other than eyesight issues. It is simply a process of reporting on conditions found by other Doctors and can be easily dodged by not seeing Doctors or specialists. Forcing pilots to identify and deal with medical issues is far more productive in keeping the skys safe as the current system is punishing the wrong people.
Larry
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03-29-2016, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Defiance, MO
Posts: 1,674
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Originally Posted by Brantel
Based on my answers, he was unable to state that working with him would save me much if any time vs me just doing what I have always done for the last 8 years on an annual basis; representing myself by being very careful to send them exactly what they ask for the first time
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Exactly my experience. Send them what they ask for and you will have the shortest turn around. Either do it yourself of get help by an organization or connected doctor to ensure you are sending them what they ask for.
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Originally Posted by StuBob
Absolutely right. And that's a much better point to use in combatting the 3rd class medical. Pilots suffering everything from impotence to lupus are refusing to see a doctor for fear of losing a certificate
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I have written this into every letter I have sent to my congress people about PBOR1&2.
I used to lose 3 months out of the year, where I could not fly, just waiting for the FAA to agree with my cardiologist. Best thing that happened was 5 years ago I graduated to a AME assisted special issuance. Still need all the requested paper but now No waiting for Oklahoma City to respond back.
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03-29-2016, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Brooksville, MS
Posts: 745
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Originally Posted by Brantel
The bottom line is that he says there is currently no option for expediting 3rd class medicals.
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I have no idea...but....If you would apply for a second class medical could you expedite it? My second class medicals revert to third class after 1 year.
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03-29-2016, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Hastings, MN
Posts: 582
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Originally Posted by Brantel
So here is an update on where I stand with Dr. Chien.
I mailed the letter back today requesting re-authorization of my special issuance medical. I will update the thread when they respond to tell me what hoops I must jump before consideration can be made. Anyone want to take odds on how long that simple task will take? 
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One of the things Dr. Chien was telling me is that for all physical mail received by the FAA, they put it thru a 2 week "decontamination" process. Then apparently there is also added delay when they mail forms back to you because of the mail contractor. Not sure how accurate this is, but any correspondence you can do thru fax may help expedite things a bit. So if you can pop back to 1988 and grab a fax machine, you may save some time!
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03-29-2016, 09:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Schaumburg, IL
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Originally Posted by NovaBandit
One of the things Dr. Chien was telling me is that for all physical mail received by the FAA, they put it thru a 2 week "decontamination" process.
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I don't believe that's true. Maybe a few years back with the the people lacing letters with poison issue. More likely now a standardized excuse from the FAA. Someone in Oklahoma sent me a letter after my last medical; They didn't like one of my answers and asked for a clarification. I sent a reply letter and had a letter back from them approving my already issued Medical in well under 2 weeks from the time I dropped it in the mail.
On the flipside, on the previous medical the Dr's secretary goofed up the printing of the certificate (apparently the FAA program only let the AME have one try at printing) and told me to call the FAA to have them issue it. It took three month and 10 phone calls to get it.
Larry
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03-30-2016, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Stilwell, KS
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Originally Posted by StuBob
To the general public, a guy with 3 coronary stents sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen. Probably not the best poster child for 3rd class reform  . The opposite, in fact: "See? Without the requirement for a 3rd class medical, people like this would be flying airplanes and crashing into schools with children!"
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You're probably right, unfortunately. I just can't get past the fact that if a stent or 3 enables a guy to run marathons, it shouldn't disqualify him from flying his 2-place airplane for recreation. 
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03-30-2016, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: FLL
Posts: 120
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Yeah the medical issues are a real pain.
1. I had a kidney stone years ago. I reported it... Became a big mistake. The FAA wanted me to have a Cystoscopy. The ME said it was a waste of time. My personal Doc said it was a waste of time. The Urologist doing it said it was a waste of time. My Doc buddies said it was a waste of time. FAA required it so I had to do it. It, of course, found nothing.
2. I am a diabetic. Type II, became diabetic while in the Army. My personal Doc had me on Glipizide. Worked GREAT. My fasting blood sugars were low 90's every day. BUT the FAA will not let me fly on Glipizide. So I have to take metformin when I wanted to start flying again. I was taking 5mg Glipizide, now taking 3000mg of metformin and it is not as nice to my stomach. Blood sugars are 120-130 in the AM now.
So I have had to go through procedures that were worthless and use drugs that are LESS effective than what my primary care Doc wanted.
But hey, the FAA is happy and I get an SI that I have to apply for every YEAR.
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