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Old 03-24-2016, 07:51 PM
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I've used ethanol free 91 without issue. I have 110hrs over 3 years now.
Same here, over 800 hours since 2010 with out issue.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:56 PM
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Actually, everyone flying a Rotax should be referencing the Rotax Service Instructions for use of the proper fluids in and on your engine. They change sometimes. The proper service instruction is SI-912-016R8 (as of today). Here's the link.

Lots of good stuff here. Its "must read" material for properly maintaining your Rotax.
And by golly, it says the same thing. 91 AKI.
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Old 03-25-2016, 07:33 AM
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Thank you all for the clarification on the 91 AKI requirement. I was under the wrong assumption that 91 was the intermediate fuel grade sold in most service stations that I remembered as inadequate for the Rotax. As a matter of fact the intermediate grade is 89 not 91. My mistake!
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:32 AM
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I guess the next obvious question is how trustworthy the octane rating on the pump is. I don't have any way to test the actual octane that I know of. If 91 is our minimum and the pump is labelled "91 octane", can we trust it?
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:18 PM
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I guess the next obvious question is how trustworthy the octane rating on the pump is. I don't have any way to test the actual octane that I know of. If 91 is our minimum and the pump is labelled "91 octane", can we trust it?
Good point! Only hope is that a major brand has a reputation to live up to but I would be concerned buying from a no brand station.
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:39 PM
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Good point! Only hope is that a major brand has a reputation to live up to but I would be concerned buying from a no brand station.
In our area there is reason to believe all non-contaminated gasoline is coming from the same distributor regardless of the sign on top of the station....
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:41 PM
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Good point! Only hope is that a major brand has a reputation to live up to but I would be concerned buying from a no brand station.
In our area there is reason to believe all non-contaminated gasoline is coming from the same distributor regardless of the sign on top of the station....

Our local stations (regardless of "brand") that had 93 non-ethanol switched to 90 at the same time a few months ago.
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Old 03-26-2016, 05:50 AM
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In our area there is reason to believe all non-contaminated gasoline is coming from the same distributor regardless of the sign on top of the station....

Our local stations (regardless of "brand") that had 93 non-ethanol switched to 90 at the same time a few months ago.
It's probably the distributor. Here in the Atlanta area, there is only one distributor of ethanol free gas - Green Oil Company. All of it is the same, 90 octane, only the price varies from station to station.

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Old 03-26-2016, 06:34 AM
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A fuel distributor told me that removal of the 10% ethanol from 93 AKI premium motor gasoline reduces the rating to 90 AKI. Many marinas offer that variation as some older boat engines can not tolerate ethanol.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:13 AM
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I know from past experience that if you fill up the first small amount is what the person ahead of you used..ie; 87 octane..that is what was in hose and pump ...so when I filled up scooter which took very small amount..2 gallons a good portion was what ever the person ahead of me used..don't know if it is relavent...just food for thought...
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