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02-02-2016, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indpls. IN
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Wax and grease remover
Wax and grease remover will cause fish eyes if you use it over your primer and or flush lines with it.
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02-02-2016, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Hagg
Wax and grease remover will cause fish eyes if you use it over your primer and or flush lines with it.
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This is interesting, I flushed my line with it based on info from a friend that is in the painting business. They do this as part of their maintenance program on the system several times a year. I will buy a brand new line again, cheap test.
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RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
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02-02-2016, 03:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 456
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I just received the test sample that SS sent with the red paint that I will test. Their test sample had the same issue I am having. They missed it. I am quite confident my system was always good. I am going to spray the red tonight and see what happens. They are now going to figure out what is creating the issue with the yellow. I will not wait for that outcome, if the red works, I will spray red and re prime the painted parts to change the color. I am sure that fixing the yellow will take some time.
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RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
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CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
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02-03-2016, 10:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 456
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I shot the red last night and it is perfect. They have narrowed it down to trouble with the tint. It happened to another color with the same tint. All my planes have had red, I guess a change in color was never meant to be.
Thanks to everyone for the comments. I am just glad to be able to finally paint a color that is going to work. I have a bunch of sanding and re priming on a few parts but at least I have a direction to head.
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Troy Branch
RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019
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02-03-2016, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 1,036
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Troy,
You're using EkoPoly, right? What are you using as a primer (if anything) before application? What's your prep process? I'm still a couple years out from doing the exterior paint, but I'm probably going to wind up doing it myself. This system sounds attractive because it doesn't seem quite as nasty as some of the traditional paints.
Thanks
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RV-7ER - finishing kit and systems installation
There are two kinds of fool in the world. The first says "this is old, and therefore good"; the second says "this is new, and therefore better".
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02-03-2016, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmartingt
Troy,
You're using EkoPoly, right? What are you using as a primer (if anything) before application? What's your prep process? I'm still a couple years out from doing the exterior paint, but I'm probably going to wind up doing it myself. This system sounds attractive because it doesn't seem quite as nasty as some of the traditional paints.
Thanks
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You wash the aluminum with their eco clean, the spray it with eco etch and scrub it with scotch brite, keeping it wet. Rinse with a wet terry towel and then spray wash clean with water. After it is dry you shoot on the eco prime. Next is a light scuff with scotch brite, wipe with a light spray of 91% alcohol on a low lint towel then tack rag. Shoot the color and done. Very little smell and a safe easy process.
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RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019
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02-03-2016, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,294
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Troy - I appreciate you taking the time to share your technique and other info here. I was going to use EKo-Crylic, but you've now got me interested in the EkoPoly as it seems to be a more flexible finish. Thanks for opening my eyes to this possibility.
Which red have you chosen to go with? I'm thinking Pontiac Red for our project. Wish I could get some LARGE colour samples to allow a more informed colour choice. I have a "larger" sample of the Pontiac Red, but it's still pretty darned small compared to the size of the airplane... :-)
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02-04-2016, 06:46 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 456
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I am using fire horn red. It is brighter to the red on my Rv 10 and also shinier. I will pm you a pick of it on the last plane I built.
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RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019
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02-04-2016, 07:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,294
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Thanks, Troy - much appreciated!
If it's easier to send the pic via email, the following address works:
cgjoy (at) yahoo.ca
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02-18-2016, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 456
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I would like to suggest that any new can of paint, you should spray a test sample. Never assume the can is good. I got the new gallons of red and sprayed my flaps a couple of weeks ago. Same problem with red now, flaps need to be stripped. I have tested and tested narrowing it down to can contamination. I shot it in a professional booth yesterday to rule out my system. It shot the same way in a professional booth. Save your self some trouble and always test spray any new can. I just have no trust in the consistency of the paint now. Still waiting on Stewarts to test the red from a gallon can to see if they get the same results. This is my fifth airplane build and if every project went like this, I would have stopped at one! 
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Troy Branch
RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019
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