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Old 02-04-2016, 01:13 PM
ecurington ecurington is offline
 
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Default Picture of the Retractable Units

These seatbelts came out of a Cirrus that the owner changed color. They are AmSafe belts and fit my -10 perfect. The rears were a little challenging to install. Initially I had the inertia reels forward of the rear baggage panel. Decided to fabricate brackets to mount them aft of the baggage panel after I saw how much baggage room they took up.

The fronts were bolt on and the reels bolted directly to the cabin top, so they are up out of the way.







Eulice Curington
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:07 PM
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Eulice, thanks you for the pictures! I am far away from decision making, but it might be helpful one day.

Igor
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:53 PM
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Default Cool Star Wars add in....

That is a really cool and practical add-in you put in your bird Bruce. That is has been one of my considerations/concerns is how to get folks in the back without getting tied up in the pilot/copilot harness. Since one of the primary goals for my RV-10 is to get back to doing Angel Flight work, getting folks to the back seat, often non-aviation and sometimes limited mobility in an "easy and safe manner" is important to my airplanes mission. And like most, putting $$$ where it counts most effectively for the planes mission is critical and each RV-10 & builder has it's own. Lots of great options have been presented, nice to see them all.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:19 AM
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Default Sorry for thread hijack

Mike,

I admire your generosity in planning to use your RV-10 for Angel Flights. I did AFs for many years before selling my Cessna 210 to start my RV-10 project. They were very satisfying and I would like to do more.

In the past, Angel Flight organizations have allowed only standard category aircraft for missions as stated below. Do you know if that policy has changed?

Thanks,

Bruce


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? Valid and current private (or higher) certificate, with class/type ratings and endorsements required for aircraft.
? Instrument rating.
? Valid & current class III or higher medical certificate.
? 250 hours pilot in command (PIC) experience.
? 25 hours make and model in singles, 75 hours make and model in turbines and twins.
? 50 hours as PIC in last 12 months (waived with a flight review or completion of a Wings phase in last 3
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? Liability insurance policy.
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? I will provide transportation at no cost to those we serve. I do so as a volunteer, not as an agent, servant or employee of Angel Flight, Inc.
? I will send a copy of my pilot certificate on initial application.
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? I will use only standard category aircraft for passenger flights.
? I will be in compliance with insurance and renting/club requirements for carrying passengers in aircraft flown.
? I will be instrument current and I will file IFR on all passenger legs.
? To facilitate coordination & tracking, I will also file IFR on repositioning flights to collect a passenger.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:53 AM
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Mike,

I admire your generosity in planning to use your RV-10 for Angel Flights. I did AFs for many years before selling my Cessna 210 to start my RV-10 project. They were very satisfying and I would like to do more.

In the past, Angel Flight organizations have allowed only standard category aircraft for missions as stated below. Do you know if that policy has changed?

Thanks,

Bruce


How to become a Command Pilot
Pilot requirements:
? Valid and current private (or higher) certificate, with class/type ratings and endorsements required for aircraft.
? Instrument rating.
? Valid & current class III or higher medical certificate.
? 250 hours pilot in command (PIC) experience.
? 25 hours make and model in singles, 75 hours make and model in turbines and twins.
? 50 hours as PIC in last 12 months (waived with a flight review or completion of a Wings phase in last 3
months).
? Liability insurance policy.
Annual Affirmation:
? I will provide transportation at no cost to those we serve. I do so as a volunteer, not as an agent, servant or employee of Angel Flight, Inc.
? I will send a copy of my pilot certificate on initial application.
? I will send a copy of my medical certificate and liability insurance declarations on initial application and on
each annual renewal.
? I will use only standard category aircraft for passenger flights.
? I will be in compliance with insurance and renting/club requirements for carrying passengers in aircraft flown.
? I will be instrument current and I will file IFR on all passenger legs.
? To facilitate coordination & tracking, I will also file IFR on repositioning flights to collect a passenger.
Non-pilots and pilots who don? t meet our pilot requirements or affirmations are welcome to join and are encouraged to participate in volunteer activities.
If I am not mistaken, it depends on which sub-organization you are flying within. For instance, the Angel Flight Northeast specifically calls out no experimentals, where the Southeast organization doesn't appear to have this language.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:22 PM
WrightsRV7 WrightsRV7 is offline
 
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Default angel flight & experimentals

Wow, did not realize they shut experimentals out of passenger service. I am going to ping Angel Flight West and see where experimental use sits, just flying organs and non-people is much less rewarding. Thanks for the heads up on that, did not see this one coming. I guess living and building in the Vans experimental world with such modest insurance rates and an excellent safety record on the whole, that risk was and is seen as right on par with FAA certified aircraft.
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:17 AM
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Default Re seatbelts

Does anyone have an opinion about securing rear seatbelts per Van's vs. a hard point on the cabin top?
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:47 PM
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Default front seat belts on -10

Everybody have pictures of the roof top attachment for -10 ?
I have the Crow to install
thanks
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:17 PM
BobTurner BobTurner is offline
 
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That is a really cool and practical add-in you put in your bird Bruce. That is has been one of my considerations/concerns is how to get folks in the back without getting tied up in the pilot/copilot harness.
all.
A number of builders have installed a ?shoulder belt hangar? between the front seats, up high, for just this purpose.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:22 PM
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Does anyone have an opinion about securing rear seatbelts per Van's vs. a hard point on the cabin top?
Cabin top hardpoint for the rear seatbelts would be at a bad angle - so probably not a good idea.

For the front seat shoulder belts I added serveral bids of glass (carbon) on the inside of the cabin top as the top thickness seemed inadequate to me - especially after counter sinking for the attachement bolt. For the attachement bolt I flatten two sides to keep it from not rotating and I set it in flox, the head just below the top of the cabin. I later fill in with micro over the head, sanded, then a coulple bids of fiberglass. More micro and more sanding - done.

I use Hooker Harness for my belts - but the brand makes no difference.

Carl
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