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01-11-2016, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by f14av8r
I've got a Dynon 2020 on order. But, as I understand it, and according to Dynon, that still won't make me LEGAL to shoot a RNAV approach using just my Skyview system. What I'm asking is that Dynon put all the other necessary components in place to give us that capability.
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Copy that.
I wasn't reading in that context because the thread subject was 2020 ADS-B compliance, and you didn't mention anything about other capabilities.
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01-11-2016, 09:43 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Redding,Ca
Posts: 633
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Me too
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Originally Posted by Delta Bravo
My 600 EXP is working fine with the exception of intermit "NO GPS" warnings on WingX that last for about 2 seconds then returns to normal operation. Does this on the ground and in flight. I am using a non-waas GA-56 ANT that Navworx said was perfectly accepitable. My FAA ADSB performance report was normal with no failures.
Anyone else have any similar issues?
Thanks,
Don Bodnar
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Ive just installed mine and only flown twice but I see the same GPS drop out occasionally for a second or two at a time. This with the NavWorx supplied GPS receiver and a good FAA report.
Tim Andres
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01-11-2016, 10:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: US
Posts: 2,245
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Originally Posted by f14av8r
I don't understand why Dynon is ceding this very profitable territory to others. I want an all Dynon solution for experimental aircraft. We don't need no stinking TSOs! Just meet the same standards and give me WAAS GPS solution that feeds my Dynon Skyview! Why we have to continue to buy these ridiculously overpriced Garmin products to "feed" our Dynon products is beyond me. And, I'm guessing it's beyond me for a reason. I'm sure there are some really good reasons why Dynon hasn't invaded this space yet, I'd just like to know what they are.
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Since you're actually talking about GPS Navigators and not ADS-B...
Have a look at the TSOs for GPS navigators, including hardware, software, databases, RAIM, environments, etc. Then see if you think it's worth Dynon's time to try to break into an already pretty saturated market for GPS navigators while risking a ton of money to make that attempt.
I didn't like paying a ton of money for my 430W, either, but at least I didn't pay any more for it than if I owned a certificated plane and had a shop upgrade it. [ed. Removed vendor bashing stuff... dr]
But I'd still rather have Dynon focus on their EFIS/XPDR/AP/ADS-B/GPS stuff than get out of their wheelhouse and into certified navigators.
Last edited by DeltaRomeo : 03-27-2016 at 04:25 PM.
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01-11-2016, 10:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 347
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Any way the navworx info can display on a 696 or 796?
I love the 696 which also drives my trutrak gemini.
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Originally Posted by Jesse
I have now installed 4+ Navworx -EXP boxes and they are by far the easiest and cheapest way to go if you don't have an ES transponder or an IFR WAAS GPS.
I installed one today that took all of 2 minutes to configure. The hardest part of the install was running a power wire from the panel to the tailcone of the RV-7A. That wire and a local airframe ground and the two antennas and it was done. The display is Wing X on the iPad, so there is not even any display wire. Super easy to install.
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01-12-2016, 06:45 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
Posts: 2,034
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I am 2020 compliant. I already had the Garmin 430W box so in 2013 I connected it to my DYNON SkyView system (Transponder & ADS-B Receiver) with the proper software upgrades and problem solved. I cancelled my $50/mo XM weather subscription back then so my ADS-B receiver has already paid for itself and is now slowly paying my transponder.

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01-12-2016, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 216
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I have been debating on this in my mind. I am torn between a 327 or similar for now and upgrading to an ES transponder in 2019 - BUT, here's the rub - now that 327 is worth close to half the cost of th ES - but in 2019 those C transponders are going to be boat anchors as the market is flooded with non-compliant units. Will the compliant transponders have come down enough to justify waiting? The internal debate rages on... With a Dynon panel I can get fully compliant for about $2500 OVER the cost of a 327 ($3500 or so total). That's $2500 I can spend on A LOT of flying...
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01-12-2016, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: X35 - Ocala, FL
Posts: 3,679
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The 327 will never be a boat anchor. As long as you use a stand-alone ads-b solution like the Navworx box or Freeflight system, the 327 will be adequate as a transponder forever (at least for the foreseeable future). A plane can be compliant with a Narco AT-150, which most consider boat anchors already.
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01-12-2016, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 256
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Originally Posted by Geeman
Waiting till 2019 to see everything available. As with electronics these days, I figure the options will keep getting better. Maybe wishfull thinking.
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This is my plan... I just might include a panel upgrade too.
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01-12-2016, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Paul, MN.
Posts: 4,792
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Same here. Waiting. I see special transponders for sale and yada yada yada and I can't -- I just can't -- even think of the fact that some of the stuff I bought just a few years ago will need to be replaced.
So I'll probably just go full cheap and do the bare minimum sometime around November 2019. Maybe December.
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01-12-2016, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 36
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Problem with waiting until Dec. 2019, according to Garmin seminar I just attended, is: so will many others, and you may get stuck in a log jam, and find your plane grounded 1/1/20 until the log jam clears.
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