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Old 01-12-2016, 06:00 AM
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. . . . Maybe I should file a couple, then cancel them a few days later and say "I just file them in case I decide to go flying that day". After-all, I can't decide that today looks like a good day to go flying...with 5 days notice.
This is an excellent idea. File for all the potential flights one wants to take. Based on typical flight of course. I am not involved (yet), but tons of new paperwork across the system will get their attention and quick.

Recent Example: The local KPIA airport director got thousands of calls because of the TSA drivers license issue. Illinois DL was going to cease being a valid ID for air travel. I imagine a hundred thousand citizens resulted in a hundred airport directors calls to the state politicians. Nothing gets internal attention like internal chaos when everyone is "doing the right thing"
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:47 AM
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Where i live there is a continuious stream of heavy iron overhead, much of it from the US. Maybe Canada needs to exercise a little sovereignty and forbid overflights until they stop this kind of stupidity.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:03 AM
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As a side note, if you want to be even more amazed at the whole thing, have a look at the NOTAM that the FAA published that explains all this:

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_5_6289.html

Can YOU make any sense of it? Geesh ...
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:27 AM
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I received my waiver from the FAA today, good for 90 days. The one provision is that I must cite the waiver number in my flight plan comments.

I listed the common airports that I will be flying to while transiting US airspace.

It only took two days to get the waiver, but I should be good for a 15 minute flight to Langley now.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:52 AM
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I totally support the rights of any nation to protect it's airspace.
but.....from.....us?

Vern, perhaps we could just add in our flight plan comments.....
"I am a 1600lb light recreational aircraft going to Chilliwack for pie, I promise I'm not a nuclear tipped N. Korean drone."

I think that should assuage some fears.

sorry, didn't mean to get 'political' but it's hard, when the regulations we fly under are 100% motivated by the dorks we elected king.
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:01 AM
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Vern
Do you think we will need this waiver when we file an eapis to a US airport as we have done in the past?

Could it be that they were trying to get a handle on those aircraft that are, for example, flying direct from Canada to Bermuda over US airspace, and they never considered the border intrusion issues dealing with approaches?
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:12 AM
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A couple of years ago, I was ferrying a RV4 from Hamilton Ontario to Nova Scotia. I was well aware of the need for flight plan, ATC contact and transponder code to fly over Maine from Sherbrook Que., but after passing CFB Trenton and having flight following by them terminated, I called an Ottawa controller and asked for flight following as I continued toward Sherbrook. I was about ten miles from north of the river, and was told that she couldn't do that as I was in US air space. I questioned this, and was told that even though I was well in Canada, the airspace was controlled from the US. She told me to call again when a passed a certain point and she then obliged with the request. Seemed very strange to me.

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Vern what steps did you take to apply for your waiver?
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:56 PM
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The NOTAM is a little convoluted at first flush, but after re-reading, I don't think anything has changed with respect to flying Canadian registered aircraft into U.S. Airspace provided it meets the weight requirement. The NOTAM exempts aircraft under 100,309 lbs. unless iregistered to a U.S. State Department Designated Special Interest Country. The special rules and waiver contained within the NOTAM appear to me to be only applicable if the weight limit is exceeded and/or the aircraft is registered to a designated Special Interest Country.

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A. CIVIL AIRCRAFT WITH A MAXIMUM CERTIFICATED TAKEOFF GROSS WEIGHT
LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 100,309 POUNDS (45,500 KGS) ARE AUTHORIZED TO
1512140040-PERM
END PART 1 OF 9
!FDC 5/6289 ZZZ PART 2 OF 9 SECURITY SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS
FOR CIVIL
OPERATE WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S. IN ACCORDANCE
WITH ALL APPLICABLE REGULATIONS AND IN VFR IN AIRPORT TRAFFIC
PATTERN AREAS OF UNITED STATES AIRPORTS NEAR THE UNITED STATES
BORDER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AIRCRAFT DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH 1)
BELOW:
1) CIVIL AIRCRAFT WITH A MAXIMUM CERTIFICATED TAKEOFF GROSS WEIGHT
LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 100,309 POUNDS (45,500 KGS) AND REGISTERED IN
A U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT-DESIGNATED SPECIAL INTEREST COUNTRY OR
OPERATING WITH THE ICAO THREE LETTER DESIGNATOR OF A COMPANY IN A
COUNTRY LISTED AS A U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT-DESIGNATED SPECIAL
INTEREST COUNTRY, UNLESS THE OPERATOR HOLDS VALID FAA PART 129
OPERATIONS SPECIFICATIONS, MUST OPERATE WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL
AIRSPACE OF THE U.S. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAME REQUIREMENTS OF
CIVIL AIRCRAFT WITH A MAXIMUM CERTIFICATED TAKEOFF GROSS WEIGHT
GREAT THAN 100,309 POUNDS (45,500 KGS) DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH B.
B. CIVIL AIRCRAFT WITH A MAXIMUM CERTIFICATED TAKEOFF GROSS WEIGHT
GREATER THAN 100,309 POUNDS (45,500 KGS) ARE AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE
WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS:
1512140040-PERM
END PART 2 OF 9
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:46 PM
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Vern what steps did you take to apply for your waiver?
https://waivers.faa.gov/aap/te_pages.p_login

Apply for a password, then log in and complete forms.
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