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Old 12-30-2015, 11:49 AM
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IO-360 200hp Catto fixed pitch prop.
Hi Mike, could you tell about numbers from your Catto prop?

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Old 12-30-2015, 12:02 PM
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I know that that 24 doesn't have the options of the 680. The starter I have says it should draw about 200 amps so it looks like the 24 would work. Is there a reason why you think its to small. I like the weight and the price.
The initial inrush current from your starter will measure closer to 600 amps which is why you need the ETX680 at a minimum. For any vehicle, the charging system is one of the most used systems and under sizing any of the components, which would include the alternator, the starter or the battery, will have poor performance results, cause additional stresses to the system and cause premature failures.

I understand that the cost of the batteries can be restrictive and is not for everyone. Based on this, we recommend buying a lead acid battery that meets your needs than buy an under sized lithium battery.

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Old 12-30-2015, 01:56 PM
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very nice design and construction. I like the hold down better than the one I built. High quality, I cannot wait to see the rest of your plane. Keep pounding, one day it will fly and you enter a new chapter.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:31 PM
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I had many parts anodized as well.
Like the purdy conical washers under the cap screws?
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Old 12-30-2015, 04:14 PM
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Like the purdy conical washers under the cap screws?
Nope, bought those.
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Old 01-05-2016, 10:36 AM
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Default First new product to be introduced in 2016!

Based on many of you requesting a battery box that could be interchangeable between the ETX680/ETX900 or the PC680.......we have listened and we have it! The mounting holes are exactly the same as the one Van's sells for the PC680 so no modifications needed there, it weight just over 8 ounces and cost $59. If you want to read more about it check it out here at:

http://earthxmotorsports.com/shop/mu...-pc680-odyssey

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Old 01-05-2016, 11:16 AM
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Brilliant! *now* I can start building
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Old 01-05-2016, 02:32 PM
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My plane goes in for annual the end of this month. The PC680 is just about 4 years old and beginning to show signs of aging sooooooo..... I ordered the EarthX 680 and the new battery box. They say it matches up with the existing holes so I'll let you know how the exchange goes. Really nice folks at EarthX, I must say.
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Old 01-09-2016, 05:57 PM
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Default Battery comparison

I was able to get some testing done today, and thought I would share with everyone here. I currently have an Odyssey PC925 in the RV10, and have always used that battery in both RV10's, changing it out every 3 years. The battery always tested good, but I really don't care to be stranded somewhere. It's 3 years since I installed the last one and time for a change, and I thought I would look into EarthX batteries again, seeing as they have some more choices now and a pretty good track record from what I can tell.
Kathy at EarthX was kind enough to send me both a ETX 900 and an ETX 1200 so I could compare them. I certainly don't have a lab for testing batteries, but here's what I decided to do:
Crank for 10 seconds and see what the rpm's were using an optical tach. Then run the full avionics load for 45 mins. Then crank for 10 seconds again and count RPM's and measure cranking voltage.

Here's what I got:

PC 925
  • initial voltage with everything on: 12.4 v
  • cranking rpms: 120
  • 30 minutes load: 11.8 v
  • 45 mins load 11.7
  • crank after 45 mins 80 rpm and 10.0 v

ETX 900
  • initial voltage with everything on 13.2
  • cranking rpm's 140
  • 30 mins load 12.7
  • 45 mins load 12.6
  • crank after 45 mins load 120-140 rpms 10.6 v

ETX 1200
  • initial voltage with everthing on 13.1v
  • crank 10 seconds 160 rpm
  • 30 mins load 12.8v
  • 45 mins load 12.7
  • crank after 45 mins 140 rpm 11.9v

Conclusions: either the 900 or the 1200 are adequate for the RV10 in my estimation. I was really impressed with the power out of a box that is so light!

As luck would have it my friend and fellow RV10 driver Ted Chipps needs a battery for his 10 and he chose the 900, so I will put the 1200 in mine and I will report back on this list of any findings. Hopefully we will be able to get some good long-term data from these 2 aircraft that are similarly equipped.

Kudos to Kathy and the team at Earthx!

Vic
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Old 01-09-2016, 09:10 PM
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I was able to get some testing done today, and thought I would share with everyone here. I currently have an Odyssey PC925 in the RV10, and have always used that battery in both RV10's, changing it out every 3 years. The battery always tested good, but I really don't care to be stranded somewhere. It's 3 years since I installed the last one and time for a change, and I thought I would look into EarthX batteries again, seeing as they have some more choices now and a pretty good track record from what I can tell.
Kathy at EarthX was kind enough to send me both a ETX 900 and an ETX 1200 so I could compare them. I certainly don't have a lab for testing batteries, but here's what I decided to do:
Crank for 10 seconds and see what the rpm's were using an optical tach. Then run the full avionics load for 45 mins. Then crank for 10 seconds again and count RPM's and measure cranking voltage.

Here's what I got:

PC 925
  • initial voltage with everything on: 12.4 v
  • cranking rpms: 120
  • 30 minutes load: 11.8 v
  • 45 mins load 11.7
  • crank after 45 mins 80 rpm and 10.0 v

ETX 900
  • initial voltage with everything on 13.2
  • cranking rpm's 140
  • 30 mins load 12.7
  • 45 mins load 12.6
  • crank after 45 mins load 120-140 rpms 10.6 v

ETX 1200
  • initial voltage with everthing on 13.1v
  • crank 10 seconds 160 rpm
  • 30 mins load 12.8v
  • 45 mins load 12.7
  • crank after 45 mins 140 rpm 11.9v

Conclusions: either the 900 or the 1200 are adequate for the RV10 in my estimation. I was really impressed with the power out of a box that is so light!

As luck would have it my friend and fellow RV10 driver Ted Chipps needs a battery for his 10 and he chose the 900, so I will put the 1200 in mine and I will report back on this list of any findings. Hopefully we will be able to get some good long-term data from these 2 aircraft that are similarly equipped.

Kudos to Kathy and the team at Earthx!

Vic
While I like to see controlled lab tests, this is well done for real world conditions! Nicely done Vic. The extra energy density really shows in the second spin test.

Are you going to vent it in case of a failure to keep the potential of gas out of the cabin?
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