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Old 02-08-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default What is ALPA's Position on the Proposed Budget

Hello All:

I would like to know the Airline Pilot's Association's (ALPA) position on the proposed budget so I wrote them an email last night. I know the airline managment is for it because it will ease their burden. However, most airline pilots learned to fly in general aviation and probably worked there as well. I would hope that the pilots' would be against this budget because it hurts the little guy. How are we going to grow future pilots when it will be so expensive that only people that can afford polo can participate?

I also think that the user fees for landings and instrument approaches will not get the money that the FAA is predicting. Pilots just will stop going to airports where there are fees. Perhaps that is their intention.

In the end, I think this budget will hinder the overall safey record because people will stretch their fuel because it is going to be more expensive, they will not get wx briefs if there is a charge, and they will not commit to IFR flight if they have to pay for an approach and landing fee.

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Old 02-08-2007, 09:19 AM
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When I go see the Grand Canyon, I pay to get in. When I take my boat to the lake, I pay to launch the boat.... Maybe flying's not going to be just another entitlement anymore.
and we pay for the bill colletor at the gates also- "Inefficient government bureaucracy" mean anything? That must be OK with you- And also the AVgas tax is a free tax for you? out of pocket change right? (and I'm just warming up...)
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:35 PM
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Remember that we now have a Democrat controlled Congress. Keep your memberships up in EAA and AOPA, and be ready to SPEAK LOUDLY when those guys say to. Believe me, Phil Boyer knows how to organize the troops....so be ready!

Our President (among others) has done more damage to this country and to our freedoms than I ever thought possible!! He just can't leave well enough alone! If I didn't know better, I'd swear he was in cahoots with Daly in their mutual disdane for aviation!
And to think Dubya is *supposedly* an ex-aviator (Air Guard). We all know his DAD is one. Why we're seen as such a burden to the big iron I just cannot understand. Where do the pilots for the airlines COME FROM!?? If it would cost three times what it does today for my son to get trained and ready for the majors, I would just have to say, "sorry, that ship left port years ago. Try running for public office. There's lots of money there and you don't have to be accountable for any of it."

Back in my senior year of high school, I had a classmate in a really neat aviation science course. She was from Germany and came to the states for the sole purpose of getting her license. Her dad was quite well off and could afford a full year of expenses for her to be here, get her high school diploma AND a PPL. He was not, however, rich enough to afford the same in his own country.

Tragic.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:34 AM
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Guys you have to fight this to the end.
we have user charges in New Zealand, it hurts hard.
A recent 1.5 hour IFR flight cost more in landing fees airways fees, and fuel taxes. than the operating cost of the Piper Aztec.
Good Luck I sincerely hope you win.
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by attackpilot
Hello All:

I would like to know the Airline Pilot's Association's (ALPA) position on the proposed budget so I wrote them an email last night. I know the airline managment is for it because it will ease their burden. However, most airline pilots learned to fly in general aviation and probably worked there as well. I would hope that the pilots' would be against this budget because it hurts the little guy. How are we going to grow future pilots when it will be so expensive that only people that can afford polo can participate?...
Well, I can't answer for the union because I don't know their official position on this topic, but I can tell you my position as a card carrying ALPA member and an airline pilot. I am most totally against sticking it to the little guys! My background is totally GA and I obviously still have quite a passion for it!! I live for my passion as well as quite a few other airline pilots I know.

Granted, there are a number of airline types that came from the military and really do not know anything about GA, so they may or may not have a position on this. If anything, they are probably more prone to believing GA user fees would be a good thing because it taxes the "rich"...or some such nonsense. It's not really their fault, because they just don't know any better.
That's where I come in...

This story is now front page headlines, and it gives me the opportunity to talk to these guys about general aviation and about our side of the story.
I know many of my airline brothers feel the same way I do!
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Old 02-09-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Good for you Jeff

Keep spreading the gospel, GA is the primary feeder of pilots to the airlines and the industry as a whole feeds a lot of mouths in this country...I wonder what percentage of the worlds total fleet of privately owned aircraft are in the USA vs the rest of the world?....And then ask why.

Part of the answer is surely there is more money here, but the other part is the system is GA friendly.

Sure would be a shame to kill off a thriving industry.

Frank
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Old 02-10-2007, 03:41 PM
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Aeronews.net is reporting today that the AEA (Aircraft Electronics Association) has filed comments with the FAA to "upgrade" the requirements for A&P mechanics to standards similar to Part 145 to be in line with "ICAO standards". If they get their way, this will put many little shops out of business and dramatically raise the cost of any work done by a certified mechanic...if you can find one.

The link: http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav....838d&Dynamic=1

Mitch Garner
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They have been tying to do this for the last 10 years that I know of. All currently certficated A&P's would be grandfathered in to all catagories, but I don't see this happening that soon. Who knows with the craziness the FAA has been doing recently?
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