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12-06-2015, 05:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Louisville, KY
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A lot of work described in only two sentences!
So I finally got around to attaching the nutplates to the main spar today (well... one nutplate). After receiving the wing kit I had been putting off touching the main spar. I was doing rib de-burring instead. Cutting into the main spar was scaring me away.
So, today I read and I read and I read and I was confused. It turns out that the first step of the main spar prep is only two sentences long. Two sentences! If you go on to sentence #3 you will get confused. Jeeeeesus Christ.
Is Van's trying to save paper on the instructions? Wow, ok, I think I understand how the rest of this build is going to go.
I'm excited though. I'm jumping up and down in excitement that I'm progressing on this wing for real. The wing makes the empennage feel like it was a small lego kit.
Woohoo!
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Guido Bartolucci - Louisville, KY - Bowman Field (KLOU)
RV-8 (N883G): Empennage Finished, Working on Wings
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12-06-2015, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Congratulations
Congratulations Guido. Take your time and read ahead.
Wait til you see you brief they are with the fuse destructions.
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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12-06-2015, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Not that it makes hard-to-follow modern plans any better, but somebody should post a .pdf of the old instructions for the -3, -4, and -6.
I swear the instructions for my wings, tanks, ailerons, flaps, and tips took about 4 pages of verbiage. Plus 20 sheets of blueprints.
The FWF directions were (effectively) "Knock yourself out, Sparky."
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Marietta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
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12-06-2015, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 228
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Plans Istrructions
"The FWF directions were (effectively) "Knock yourself out, Sparky."
That's was funny right there, as Larry the Cale Guy would say !!!
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12-06-2015, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guidoism
If you go on to sentence #3 you will get confused. Jeeeeesus Christ.
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I can assure you he had nothing to do with the level of displeasure you have with that part of the construction manual so I don't see this as appropriate....
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12-06-2015, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
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For me on the fuse, I had to just stare and check off every item on the plans, the drawings, there is a lot of critical info in those drawings, more than what is written!
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12-06-2015, 09:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: adelaide, south australia
Posts: 171
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Read, reread, read again, read ahead, comprehend. Repeat as necessary. 
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12-06-2015, 09:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ramona, CA
Posts: 2,370
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I remember thinking the same thing as I started working on the wings. You'll need to read ahead and understand where things are going in the build. You'll need to look at every scribble on the drawings. You'll need to use the old VAF search feature as you go, since just about everything you could be confused about has already been discussed here. I doubt if I would have ever started, let alone finished my airplane without all of the help here on the internet.
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12-06-2015, 10:09 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirejock
Take your time and read ahead..
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Errrrrr, speaking of reading ahead I just noticed the sentence: "Spot prime all countersunk holes where the anodizing has been removed."
Ehem... on my newly countersunk and riveted nutplate I didn't do any spot priming. Was I supposed to before squeezing the rivet in place?
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Guido Bartolucci - Louisville, KY - Bowman Field (KLOU)
RV-8 (N883G): Empennage Finished, Working on Wings
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12-07-2015, 03:58 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 1,029
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guidoism
Errrrrr, speaking of reading ahead I just noticed the sentence: "Spot prime all countersunk holes where the anodizing has been removed."
Ehem... on my newly countersunk and riveted nutplate I didn't do any spot priming. Was I supposed to before squeezing the rivet in place?
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You're fine. That statement mainly concerns the large countersinks for the screws.
What you could do at this point (depending on how fast you work) instead of spot-priming every hole is leave them bare for the moment. Wait until you have to countersink all of the rivet holes along the spar. Then, instead of hitting every hole individually, just mask off the upper part of the spar flange (so you don't get paint in the gap between the bent channel and the machined caps) and just spray the whole flange at once. As long as you make sure everything is properly cleaned first, the paint should overcoat the nutplate rivets.
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