RV-10 with 600HP... you decide.. - Page 4

cjensen · #31 02-02-2007, 07:55 AM

I sent the 'seller' an email asking why 600hp on an airplane designed for 260hp?...and beyond that if it isn't finished, why try and sell it with a 600hp motor?

His response to me-

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Performance, reliability, and cost are the very easy answers. Bonanzas designed for 300 hp are having Turbine prop conversions for darned near a half a million dollars.

My Mooney 235hp has a 325hp ($95,000 conversion) cessna 414 engine.

98% of the time you will be using less than 350hp and your engine will go 5,000hrs without a $50,000 overhall; pull the engine from the plane and put it in your boat and put in a new one for $20,000 (at 5,000 hours, you won't, your granchildren will)

C'MON!!

captainron · #32 02-02-2007, 08:13 AM

C'mon Chad, don't you know a great deal when you see it?
Lessee, 5000 hours times 250 MPH (conservative) will take you one and a quarter MILLION miles!! We know that any Corvette with this engine running at 75% to 100% power will easily go this many miles- I would guess that these power settings in the car would be well over 120 MPH to boot!
Then, you can take this engine and put it in your boat! Do you have this guy's phone number? If you're not going to pounce on a deal like this I sure will! Sure!

cjensen · #33 02-02-2007, 08:18 AM

I'm keeping that number a secret! I'm holding off though...I'm in the midst of designing a Corsair bent wing for the 10, and re-engineering it to a taildragger to accomodate that 92" prop.

Yukon · #34 02-02-2007, 08:19 AM

Read these two links and it will all become clear.

http://www.appointmentnet.com/view_d...929/index.html

http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi?p...0&start_ret=1d

captainron · #35 02-02-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cjensen

I'm keeping that number a secret! I'm holding off though...I'm in the midst of designing a Corsair bent wing for the 10, and re-engineering it to a taildragger to accomodate that 92" prop.

I'll be watching for that in the RVator.

rv6ejguy · #36 02-02-2007, 09:20 AM

Chad, thanks for getting this guy's response. He is on some goooood drugs. They must have found a new way to plate on rod bearing material with the engine in operation to get that 5000 hour TBO. Who needs PT6s with stats like this!

osxuser · #37 02-02-2007, 09:32 PM

I just don't get why an RV is the airframe of choice for this guy, put a 600HP V-8 on a Lancair IVP, not an RV-10. I could see either a turbo normalized 260 or a IO-580 325HP, but thats as far as I'd go...

gmcjetpilot · #38 02-02-2007, 11:25 PM

My Dad bought into the BD-5 when I was a little kid; he paid good money on deposits. Of course the BD-5 story is as they say .... history. All he had was a desk model on a stand to show for it, in the end. I did not know much about it at as a kid or think about it, but it's a lesson I learned unconsciously. Probably why I am super cautious about experimental kit plane claims and experimental engine claims today.

Eventually some BD-5's flew, but engine, drive and props where problematic and still are. The plane has a dubious safety record.

When dreaming of building in the 80's, I read Kit plane a lot. I noticed kit plane sellers making what to me even seemed exaggerated claims about airframes and engines. Most of the time they did not even have a prototype plane flying, much less a customer built plane flying. I stayed away with my Dad's BD-5 experience in the back of my mind. I was right, they all faded away and people lost money or something more precious.

I learned NEVER use untried, untested engine, props and airframes. Fortunately I learned from others and never lost my money, but I feel bad for these Gents.

That is what drew me to RV's of course, proven design with proven engines. They also do what they say.

I was looking at the RV-6 before Van had sold the first tail kit. When Van said he would not release performance until they finished flight test's, I knew this might be the plane for me; plus a friends RV-4 plane exceeded specs. With a Lyc, standard prop and low stall speed and metal construction, BINGO! I did not buy my first RV kit until I flew it. I went up with Van the man himself and of course as they say, the rest is history.

When you hear people like myself or others say, build it per plans and keep it simple, there is a reason.

captainron · #39 02-03-2007, 06:29 AM

Got a BD-5 in the hangar attic if you still want one! Some assembly required.

RV10Hopeful · #40 02-04-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TSwezey

RV10Hopeful,
I don't think this seller knows his ssa from his elbow! The pictures look like staged....

I didn't ask for myself so much as for some others who might be able to take advantage (not in a bad way) of getting the airframe and save a few bucks.
I am not now in a position financially to take advantage. But this way the question is already answered for those looking to do something soon.

Thanks for looking out for others though.