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Old 11-11-2015, 09:21 AM
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Hang in there Charlie. At 30 hours I was still getting a surprise on every landing, by 50 things began to settle down and by 100 you will declare victory!

I am using 60-65 KIAS and have no issues with runway used for landing. 1000' feet is routine with a little effort like light braking before the tail flies on, it can be less.
Thanks for the encouragement David. I monitored this thread and sincerely appreciate you sharing your honest experiences and more importantly your progression/improvement. Gives a guy hope.

As I turn from base to final I'm shooting for 80 KIAS. Just over the runway I'm 70+ KIAS full flaps. As soon as the wheels are down, I raise the flaps. I used to hold the tail up with excessive forward stick but now let it come down. I don't usually use the brakes hard but rather let it rollout settling for the second turnout.

I will slow my short final down (60-65 KIAS) and check the results.

I would love to master 3 pts in this thing like Mike Seagar taught me in the RV-7. I would like to fly with him again. My first biannual is due in June. Maybe then.


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IO-360 Titan
Battery on firewall (bought it that way)
Hartzell CS Prop (Slows down fast)
25 LBS. Kitty Litter in rear baggage compartment (Ballast)
35-40 LBS of bottled water in a back pack strapped in back seat (Ballast)

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Old 11-11-2015, 10:09 AM
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Thanks for the encouragement David.

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How she's made:
IO-360 Titan
Battery on firewall (bought it that way)
Hartzell CS Prop (Slows down fast)
25 LBS. Kitty Litter in rear baggage compartment (Ballast)
35-40 LBS of bottled water in a back pack strapped in back seat (Ballast)

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Yep - thanks to all Veterans.

Seems to me an aft battery option would help you out. It's not that hard to do!

Carry on!
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Old 11-11-2015, 06:00 PM
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I have about 800 hrs.tail dragger time In several different taildraggers . Sold a Citabria before buying my 8. I have 75 prox. hrs in my 8. I still cannot 3 point it. Now if I have someone in the rear I can do it but not consistently. There must be a problem with the plane or me. I am not totally without talent. CG is well within limits. I have to trim the elevator full nose up to lessen the stick load. I don't think anyone else is going to 3 point it either. My 2 cents.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:31 PM
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Three pointing is not hard at all. I actually like to have tail wheel touch just before the mains touch. in this configuration you can pull full aft on the stick after the mains touch and it wont balloon up on you.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:11 PM
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As others have stated CG plays a huge roll in 3 pointing the 8. With me solo in there I am pretty much at the front of the envelope other 8s are much more back. In that configuration I can 3 point my 8 but it's a handful and the elevator needs to be all the way back the right amount of time before touchdown to avoid a bounce which doesn't always work out that way .... . Only way I can touch tail first in that configuration is if I carry some power and then cut it at the right moment. On the other hand if I put anybody even my 60lb daughter in the back seat it pretty much 3 points itself (consistently) in comparison.

So I started to wheel land solo and 3 point with passengers ( have about 140 hours in my RV-8 now). If the winds are not to gusty I through in a 3 pointer solo just for good measure once in a while... . Runway length really has never been an issue either way.

Another thing I am wondering about is if I should adjust my elevator stop. I am currently close to the min Vans recommends. That might help 3 pointing solo ... .
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