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11-09-2015, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Paul, MN.
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You're not a real RV builder until you make this mistake.
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11-09-2015, 08:32 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Cedar Hill, TX
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DRDT
The DRDT-2 is great, but when I first started I did the same thing using it, so doesn't matter the tool, mistakes happen. Learn from it and move on, I learned I needed to slow down.
Lynn
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11-09-2015, 09:28 AM
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Thanks for the replies and suggestions. At the end of the day, I suppose that its more of a disappointment than anything. Since I haven't had the opportunity to call builder's support at Van's, I called them this morning. They pretty much echoed everything you're mentioning.
It was a good call - I like that they are so matter-of-fact. He told me that I need to get over my OCD or I will never finish the plane. That was a wakeup call I guess. So maybe I will try just fixing it. He suggested that I just match drill the "new" hole i made since i didn't dimple the right hole, and just patch the real hole before painting.
Charlie
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11-09-2015, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Mistake?
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Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry
You're not a real RV builder until you make this mistake.
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Mistake? I think it's a right of passage!
I can dishonestly say, I've never made that mistake. 
I would appreciate your vote in 2016.
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I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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11-09-2015, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Mesa, AZ
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It's an "opportunity" -- 1) you should go out and buy a big plastic bin (for scrap), and 2) use the 'mistake' piece now to practice different dimpling technique, (male on top, male on bottom, pounding too hard, pounding too lightly, cutting strips, layering, reversing a dimple, flattening a dimple, etc.). 3) Put a few scratches, and dents in the piece and try repairing them. 4) Throw the scrap in the bin (you'll need it for something else, someday.) Consider the it a practice project, and not a mistake. The practice may save you a big regret later.
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11-09-2015, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RViter
It's an "opportunity" -- 1) you should go out and buy a big plastic bin (for scrap), and 2) use the 'mistake' piece now to practice different dimpling technique, (male on top, male on bottom, pounding too hard, pounding too lightly, cutting strips, layering, reversing a dimple, flattening a dimple, etc.). 3) Put a few scratches, and dents in the piece and try repairing them. 4) Throw the scrap in the bin (you'll need it for something else, someday.) Consider the it a practice project, and not a mistake. The practice may save you a big regret later.
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I am building an RV 10 also and these are some great tips. I have re-built the Horiz spar a couple times. When I made a mistake my friend Mark said, "Great! More practice". I used those extra parts to test before countersinking, dimpling, etc. Later on I went to Vans and found out they sell samples of scrap to test on for like $10.00.
Keep going!
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11-09-2015, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: US
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry
You're not a real RV builder until you make this mistake.
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Ahem. I take exception to that 
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11-09-2015, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 98
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In DRDT-2 we thrust...
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Originally Posted by cderk
Long time listener... first time caller....
Started my RV10 build a week ago, and I think I made my first non-recoverable mistake. I had the vertical stabilizer cleco'd together and everything was going fine. I removed the skin for dimpling. While dimpling, the skin somehow moved as I was swinging my hammer and i wound up making a new hole, right next to the one that was supposed to be dimpled.
I'm thinking I need to call Van's tomorrow and order a new skin.
Anyone have any thoughts?
I cannot figure out how to attach photos here, so here is a link...
Thanks,
Charlie
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Hi Charlie,
Thanks for sharing your first big mistake...this is how we all learn from each other.
I made that mistake twice on the practice $30 aileron kit using the C-Frame. Prior to starting dimpling on my actual RV-8 parts, I reconsidered the options I have. Based on my experience with the C-Frame, I decided that buying a DRDT-2 was a better option. I am a "self proclamed perfectionist". I made the assumptions that the quantity of replacement parts + shipping cost would quickly come to the same price as a brand new DRDT-2 press. I got my DRDT-2 late last week and made a bench for it this week. I started using it tonight. I tell you, it is worth the investment.
Anyone wants to buy a brand new C-Frame from Avery, used only 2-3 times, just contact me !
Martin !
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11-09-2015, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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No big deal but if you decide to replace it, don't toss it. If you plan to do your own painting use it for paint practice! I even filled the holes with rivets so I could see how much paint to apply to nicely flow around them without filling them. It's also really nice having a large piece to practice your application skills on and it looks like a trophy hanging on the wall after the project is completed. So look at the up side and smile!
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West Michigan
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11-09-2015, 08:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Half Moon Bay, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirejock
Mistake? I think it's a right of passage!
I can dishonestly say, I've never made that mistake. 
I would appreciate your vote in 2016.
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I'll vote early and often. I got a scrap HS skin in the shed with a hole inches away from where it should be. I'm gonna use it for something, ... someday. I shoulda just used it, and included a bit of filler, but no. Van got an order. Good advice here.
You got my vote (as long as there is no toupee)
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Last edited by wjb : 11-09-2015 at 08:59 PM.
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